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Kernel Summit 2010 group picture

[Posted November 2, 2010 by corbet]

The group from the 2010 Linux Kernel summit, photo by Jonathan Corbet. The full resolution version of this photo is available.

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 20:16 UTC (Tue) by ebiederm (subscriber, #35028) [Link] (9 responses)

There is an add sitting right on top of the picture for me in both Konqueror and firefox. Is there any chance you can make it so adds don't land on top of the content?

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 20:19 UTC (Tue) by bjacob (guest, #58566) [Link] (6 responses)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865/

It's beyond my understanding why anyone would allow ads to appear on his own computer screen ;-)

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 21:09 UTC (Tue) by Zenith (guest, #24899) [Link] (5 responses)

I generally agree, but for sites that you use regularly and care about, I think this is wrong. If you think LWN provides something of value, and that LWN in general does not have annoying ads, you should support them by allowing ads to be shown on the site.

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 21:15 UTC (Tue) by bjacob (guest, #58566) [Link] (4 responses)

I am a LWN subscriber, that's how I support them.

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 21:49 UTC (Tue) by Zenith (guest, #24899) [Link] (3 responses)

I am not sure what of subscriber you are, but if you are subscribed at professional hacker or project admin, you can disable ads in the "Advertising preferences" of you "Customize your account" setting.

I cannot dictate how you use LWN, I am just saying that the ads are very unobtrusive here compared to most places, so whatever small amount of revenue you can help generate via ads will be appreciated.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 11:43 UTC (Wed) by bjacob (guest, #58566) [Link]

Sure _I_ don't see ads on LWN since I'm a subscriber. I was just expressing my opinion that people should not even give a chance for unwanted content to display on their screens.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 14:46 UTC (Wed) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] (1 responses)

It does not make economic sense to support LWN by allowing ads to be displayed. Any amount of money LWN will obtain is a fraction of the money the advertisers get from you. It is much more effective to give the money directly to LWN through the subscription.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 16:34 UTC (Wed) by Zenith (guest, #24899) [Link]

That implies that a casual reader actually pays money or buys stuff using the ads. If you do not want to be a subscriber (and thus you are not shelling out of your own pocket), whatever fraction you send to LWN by enabling ads will be better than nothing.

Sure, for subscribers it might not make sense, but I generally find the ads here on LWN very unobtrusive, so I do not mind.

Sorry

Posted Nov 2, 2010 20:20 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

Sorry, I should have caught that. I need to fix that glitch in our CSS. The picture should be clear now.

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 20:47 UTC (Tue) by TeDiouS (guest, #67602) [Link]

There's ad's on LWN?

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 21:05 UTC (Tue) by HappyCamp (guest, #29230) [Link] (5 responses)

Thanks for providing a photo! I always enjoy seeing the photos.

But, as I am an amateur photographer I would have hoped for a better photograph. Maybe it is just me but it seems kind of fuzzy :(

I can recognize the people in the image, which is good.

Maybe the 1/80th of a second exposure time allowed the camera shake to occur.

May I suggest for the future a tripod or crank the ISO up on that sucker :) If the ISO had gone from ISO 100 to ISO 400, the shutter speed could have been 1/20th of a second, which likely would have helped.

But again, thanks for taking the photo in the first place!

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 21:17 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] (2 responses)

It was a difficult photo environment; the group was crammed in tight and getting grumpy and the space was limited. It was an extreme wide-angle shot from the side, requiring more depth of field than I could summon in those conditions. Backlight didn't help. The pro had synced flash and such, hopefully he did better.

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 22:15 UTC (Tue) by HappyCamp (guest, #29230) [Link]

I was kind surprised that the photo was taken with everyone's back to the window. I can see it though, if the hired photographer was adding in strobes to match the ambient light from the window.

But if you are the photographer without the strobes, then you are kind of out of luck :( Best you can get are the people exposed properly and everything outside the window will be overexposed.

For those who might be interested in off-camera flash this is a very informative site:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/

Again I highly appreciate the photo and I am not trying to be negative. Just trying to give some ideas for future attempts.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 0:18 UTC (Wed) by Tobu (subscriber, #24111) [Link]

It must have been hard to shoot, but I do like the bright sunlight coming from the right, making the faces half golden.

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 22:03 UTC (Tue) by ewen (subscriber, #4772) [Link] (1 responses)

FTR, 1/20th of a second (50ms) is a longer exposure than 1/80th of a second (12.5ms), and thus more vulnerable to camera shake; I'm guessing you meant 1/320th of a second (just over 3ms), especially since both boosting the ISO four fold and increasing the exposure time four fold would tend to overexpose the photo.

Indoor shots with strong backlighting are tricky unless you're going for a silhouette effect; fill flash often helps balance the lighting.

Ewen

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Posted Nov 2, 2010 22:09 UTC (Tue) by HappyCamp (guest, #29230) [Link]

Totally correct. I'm doing my math wrong over here :)

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 2:14 UTC (Wed) by masoncl (subscriber, #47138) [Link] (4 responses)

Hard to believe there have been 10, but here's what google found for me. Bonus points to whoever can dig up the KS photos that actually include our smiling editor.

2001 http://lwn.net/2001/features/KernelSummit/annotated.php3
2002 http://lwn.net/Articles/3470/
2003 http://lwn.net/Articles/40830/
2004 http://lwn.net/Articles/94383/
2005 http://lwn.net/Articles/144282/
2006 http://lwn.net/Articles/191841/
2007 http://lwn.net/Articles/248891/
2008 http://lwn.net/Articles/298798/
2009 http://lwn.net/Articles/357651/

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 2:24 UTC (Wed) by alison (subscriber, #63752) [Link] (3 responses)

Can anyone tell us how many of the folks from 2001 are in the 2010 photo?

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 3:15 UTC (Wed) by davem (guest, #4154) [Link] (2 responses)

Ted T'so
Greg KH
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Al Viro
Linus Torvalds
Andi Kleen
David Woodhouse
Andrea Arcangeli
H Peter Anvin
Chris Mason

And I also was actually at there but missed the 2001 group photo
for whatever reason.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 3:21 UTC (Wed) by arnd (subscriber, #8866) [Link]

Andrew Morton is also on the 2001 picture.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 11:46 UTC (Wed) by axboe (subscriber, #904) [Link]

I was there, too.

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Posted Nov 3, 2010 23:38 UTC (Wed) by jmm82 (guest, #59425) [Link]

Only one visible person wearing socks and sandals this year.

Is that why they used to strange angle to hide everyones feet?

;)

--
John

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Posted Nov 4, 2010 19:52 UTC (Thu) by forlwn (guest, #63934) [Link] (1 responses)

Sometimes, there's a naif question.

This may be one of it and is a little beat off topic, but it's really a concern for myself.

I have though and questioned myself about, it, and didn't find a comfortable answer.

It's about patent treats against Linux.

Lately we all have witnessed the Oracle hostility against open source, after they bought Sun Microsystems.

The Novell's desire to find a buyer, is now a case at the public domain.

During SCO vs Linux and others, it was cleared by courts that Novell owns the Unix patents. We know that those patents include a lot, inside the Linux sphere.

This is a a theoretical question:

If someone decides to crunch Linux for ever, isn't it as easy as just buy Novell and then demand royalties payments for every Linux distributed out there?

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Posted Nov 5, 2010 13:19 UTC (Fri) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

If someone decides to crunch Linux for ever, isn't it as easy as just buy Novell and then demand royalties payments for every Linux distributed out there?

Novell hasn't exactly been a hotbed of Unix development during the time it has been holding the patents so chances are that most of them will have expired (or will soon expire). Not really a method for »crushing Linux forever«.

Also, whether the patents actually mean anything to you as a Linux developer depends on where you are in the world. The USA is probably one of the worse places to be in that regard.

Finally, going after »every Linux distributed out there« is probably not going to be an economically viable idea. Most Linux machines are run by people who wouldn't be able to afford a large royalty payment, while a small royalty payment would probably cost more to collect than it would bring in. Also there is the problem of figuring out exactly who ought to pay for what. This is why most patent lawsuits to do with Linux (see SCO vs. IBM, or Microsoft vs. Tom Tom) tried to go after a few commercial users with (presumably) deep pockets, rather than every Linux user.

In the 1970s, when Unix was being distributed for free to universities and so on, AT&T held a patent on the Unix Set-UID mechanism. They originally thought they might be able to collect on that but finally donated the patent to the public domain on the grounds that it would be too much trouble to try to collect royalties from all the Unix licensees.

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Posted Nov 6, 2010 23:33 UTC (Sat) by nevets (subscriber, #11875) [Link]

Interesting how most are looking at the professional photographer and some are looking at Jon. I guess that's what happens with two photographers. I'm glad Craig and Angela made Jon join in on the official shot. Note, hch was AWOL.

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Posted Jan 13, 2011 9:53 UTC (Thu) by jikos (subscriber, #43140) [Link]

I've just came across the 'professional' photo finally -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/13825348@N03/5182564838/size...

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Posted Jan 13, 2011 10:07 UTC (Thu) by jikos (subscriber, #43140) [Link]

I came across the photo from the professional photographer -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/13825348@N03/5182564838/size...


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