KS2010: Core kernel vision
Al Viro jumped in with the claim that Neil had missed one important component in the success of Unix: those two engineers had taste. Therein lies the problem for Linux; a lot of the code coming in is tasteless. It's hard to fix; taste is a hard thing to formalize, and trying to educate developers in taste is not even encouraged. Any discussion of taste is seen as unfriendly, no matter how it's done. Paul McKenney pointed out that there was more than taste involved, though; Unix was also full of things like gets(), which clearly are not in good taste. Economics was a big part of why Unix has been so successful for so long.
Mel Gorman suggested that developers should ask themselves if they would submit their patch to any other operating system. Would it also be suitable for one of the BSDs? If the answer is "no," that might be a good indication that taste is lacking. He also said that it's hard to tell developers that their work lacks taste. It's not like a technical problem which can be fixed; something without taste often needs to be rethought from the beginning.
Looking at the design of a patch before its implementation might be one way to ensure better taste. But, as Ted Ts'o pointed out, that tends not to work well in the Linux environment. Developers are strongly tuned to code; they will be suspicious of design documents which appear without an accompanying implementation. When a document is all there is, it's hard to tell if the developers are serious enough to see things through.
Linus said that one thing he has been doing in recent times is pushing back on features which only have one user. Good taste is important, he said, but it's very hard to explain to developers. But if those developers go through the process of making their work applicable to multiple groups of users, they will often learn a lot. One feature which is being held back for this reason currently is Cleancache, which hasn't yet found enough users to be put into the kernel. Proposed new system calls have also been rejected for the same reason. They must have at least two users, though Linus wondered if that should be raised to three.
Al cited the proposed the "open by handle" system call as not showing great taste; it reveals too much information from within filesystems. It could maybe be made acceptable if the resulting file descriptor had the O_NOACCESS flag set, so that it could only be used in system calls like openat(). He indicated that this idea needed further thought, though.
Linus requested that subsystem maintainers get better at saying "no." If he has to reject a patch it is, by his reckoning, a failure of the process. Maintainers especially need to learn how to say "no" to their own code.
One place where he should have said "no," he said, was the fanotify patches. Indeed, he should have rejected dnotify and inotify as well. There comes a point, after two or three failed attempts, where one has to realized that an idea is just broken. So he will never again accept a file notification API; anybody proposing one may get a stronger reaction than he bargained for. Some problems, Linus said, are simply too hard to be properly solved.
Next: A staging process for ABIs.