IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work [LWN.net]

IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work

Posted Oct 12, 2010 17:38 UTC (Tue) by Ed_L. (guest, #24287)
In reply to: IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work by b7j0c
Parent article: IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work

I think you underestimate the strength, vitality, and popularity of Java as a Linux enterprise development environment. It ain't going away. IBM is trying to make Java stronger by working with Oracle America's Java dev team rather than at odds. There does remain the issue with the certification code license; we'll see.

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IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work

Posted Oct 12, 2010 22:08 UTC (Tue) by b7j0c (guest, #27559) [Link] (2 responses)

oh i'm well aware that java isn't "going away"...but it will become irrelevant. it will move steadfastly into the cabal of technologies reserved solely for outsourcing and maintenance. the cool kids were already moving away from it, and this will just finish that trend...java will truly become the new cobol

IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work

Posted Oct 13, 2010 2:38 UTC (Wed) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link] (1 responses)

"java will truly become the new cobol"

Is how "cool" the language is or it's style more important than it's function for you? I happen to prefer python at the moment but I an recognize than java has an experienced and vibrant community, massive collection of reusable code libraries and is used to successfully solve a lot of problems. I suppose it's popularity in business makes it like COBOL but you say that like it's a bad thing.

IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work

Posted Oct 13, 2010 20:19 UTC (Wed) by b7j0c (guest, #27559) [Link]

yes cool matters, you'd be naive to think programming languages aren't at least partially driven by fashion

the whims of taste will dictate who uses what tools and who you can expect to work with and what types of projects and what type of culture

you're in good luck, the cool kids like python. go work with them, they have free m&m's in their snack rooms

the java crowd will be relegated to offices where they put white powder in their food-service coffee

IBM joins Oracle for OpenJDK work

Posted Oct 14, 2010 19:14 UTC (Thu) by daniel (guest, #3181) [Link]

I think you underestimate the strength, vitality, and popularity of Java as a Linux enterprise development environment.

Java is popular all right, mainly because it's pretty hard to segfault and it doesn't leak memory. But it's unpopular with me because it's slow and bloaty, for both development and finished applications.