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Exaggeration

Posted Sep 23, 2010 15:04 UTC (Thu) by juliank (guest, #45896)
In reply to: Exaggeration by foom
Parent article: A constantly usable testing distribution for Debian

> Well, it depends on how you count. For example, Debian Squeeze is not yet
> released. But it's going to be way outdated at release time, if you take
> some specific high-profile examples:
> - Python 2.6 (not 2.7, released Jul 3)
Same for Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.10.

> - Linux 2.6.32 (not 2.6.33-2.6.35, 2.6.33 released Feb 24)
Well, 2.6.32 will be maintained longer than 2.6.33, 2.6.34, or 2.6.35; and makes much more sense for a Debian release.

> - GCC 4.4 (not 4.5, released Apr 15)
Same for Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.10; moving to a new GCC version is usually a bit complicated.

> - Firefox 3.5 (not 3.6, released Jan 21)
> - Thunderbird 3.0 (not 3.1, released Jun 24)
Mozilla stuff is generally a problem, as far as I know.


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Exaggeration

Posted Sep 26, 2010 14:15 UTC (Sun) by pgquiles (guest, #70318) [Link] (1 responses)

>> - Python 2.6 (not 2.7, released Jul 3)
>Same for Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.10.

Ubuntu 10.10 already has Python 2.7

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=python2.7

>> - GCC 4.4 (not 4.5, released Apr 15)
>Same for Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.10; moving to a new GCC version is >usually a bit complicated.

Ubuntu 10.10 already has gcc 4.5

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-4.5

If Ubuntu can develop something quite stable with 6-month release cycles and 2-month stabilization cycles, why can't Debian try it? (openSuse has 9-month release cycle and also works well for them)

Exaggeration

Posted Sep 26, 2010 14:34 UTC (Sun) by juliank (guest, #45896) [Link]

> Ubuntu 10.10 already has Python 2.7
But it's not the default and not supported, so practically useless.

> Ubuntu 10.10 already has gcc 4.5
It's not the default, so it does not matter.

Debian has those packages as well, in experimental. In Ubuntu, there is no thing such as experimental, so it needs to be in maverick in order to be in Ubuntu.


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