Realtime Linux: academia v. reality [LWN.net]

Realtime Linux: academia v. reality

Posted Jul 29, 2010 2:16 UTC (Thu) by deater (subscriber, #11746)
Parent article: Realtime Linux: academia v. reality

You complain that academics are too lazy to post their findings on linux-kernel, the accepted way of interacting with kernel people.

Yet you also admit you are too lazy to write-up an academic paper on what you've discovered from real-world Linux implementation, which would be the accepted way of interacting with academic people.

I see a failure on both sides here.

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Realtime Linux: academia v. reality

Posted Jul 29, 2010 12:17 UTC (Thu) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] (2 responses)

Writing a publication-quality academic paper is a rather more specialized skill than writing an e-mail fit to be sent to LKML. As such, it is the academics who can more reasonably be asked to make the extra effort here.

Realtime Linux: academia v. reality

Posted Jul 29, 2010 13:17 UTC (Thu) by deater (subscriber, #11746) [Link] (1 responses)

Having done both, I think the kernel community and academia are surprisingly similar.

In both cases if you are only proposing an incremental idea/patch, it's fairly easy to get that looked at and considered.

However if you are planning something drastic, expect months to years of "peer review" (be it by entrenched professors or else just no-nonsense kernel devs).

The process can be long and arbitrary, and it turns off enough people that they don't bother trying. And yes, you have to fight politics, on both ends, and outsiders are treated with suspicion at first.

Realtime Linux: academia v. reality

Posted Jul 30, 2010 15:44 UTC (Fri) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]

The difference is that for the lkml you can fire-and-forget, if you so choose, and not worry about whether it gets accepted.

Realtime Linux: academia v. reality

Posted Jul 29, 2010 20:57 UTC (Thu) by tglx (subscriber, #31301) [Link]

If you would have read what I wrote without your blinders on, then you would have noticed that I precisely pointed out that there is a problem on both sides of the fence.

So what's the point ?