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Release candidate for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now available

[Posted April 22, 2010 by jake]

From:  Steve Langasek <steve.langasek-AT-ubuntu.com>
To:  ubuntu-announce-AT-lists.ubuntu.com
Subject:  Announcing the Release Candidate for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
Date:  Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:32:15 -0700
Message-ID:  <20100422153215.GA5649@dario.dodds.net>

The Ubuntu team is pleased to announce the Release Candidate for Ubuntu
10.04 LTS (Long-Term Support) Desktop and Server Editions and Ubuntu 10.04
LTS Server for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC) and Amazon's EC2, as well as
Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition.  Codenamed "Lucid Lynx", 10.04 LTS continues
Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source
technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution.

We consider this release candidate to be complete, stable, and suitable for
testing by any user.

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop Edition and Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook Edition continue
the trend of ever-faster boot speeds, with improved startup times and a
streamlined, smoother boot experience.

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Edition provides even better integration of the
Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud, with its install-time cloud setup.

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server for UEC and EC2 brings the power and stability of
the Ubuntu Server Edition to cloud computing, whether you're using Amazon
EC2 or your own Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud.

The Ubuntu 10.04 family of variants, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, Ubuntu
Studio, and Mythbuntu, also reach beta status today.

The final release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is scheduled for 29 April 2010 and
will be supported for three years on desktops and five years on servers.

Before installing or upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, please review the
instructions and caveats in the release notes:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004

In addition, there are a small number of known bugs in the release candidate
that will be fixed before the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS release, but warrant
highlighting for your attention:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004overview...

About The Release Candidate
---------------------------

The purpose of the Release Candidate is to solicit one last round of testing
before the final release. Here are ways that you can help:

 * Upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 LTS or Ubuntu 9.10 to the Release Candidate by
   following the instructions in the release notes referenced above.

 * Participate in installation testing using the Release Candidate CD
   images, by following the testing and reporting instructions at
   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO


Desktop features
----------------

Social from the start:  We now feature built-in integration with Twitter,
identi.ca, Facebook, and other social networks with the MeMenu in the panel.

New Design: Cleaner and faster boot, new notification area, new themes, new
icons, and new wallpaper bring a dramatically updated look and feel to
Ubuntu.

Ubuntu One: Synchronize any folder in your home directory, publish files to
share with the Internet directly from your Ubuntu desktop, manage more sync
settings with the Ubuntu One Preferences application, use Rhythmbox to
choose from millions of songs available for purchase in the Ubuntu One Music
Store.  Learn more at:

  http://one.ubuntu.com/blog

Server features
---------------

Cloud computing:  The Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud installer has been vastly
improved in order to support alternative installation topologies. UEC
components are now automatically discovered and registered, even when
the storage controller, cluster controller and walrus are installed on
different servers. Finally, UEC is now powered by the latest Eucalyptus
version 1.6.2.

UEC and EC2:  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS continues the tradition of official Ubuntu
Server image releases for UEC and for Amazon's EC2, giving you everything
you need for rapid deployment of Ubuntu instances in a cloud computing
environment. UEC images, and information on running Ubuntu 10.04 on EC2, are
available at:

  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/rc

Stability and security:  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS brings many improvements over
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS to keep your servers safe and secure for the next five
years, including AppArmor profiles for many key services, kernel hardening,
and an easy-to-configure firewall.

Ubuntu Netbook features
-----------------------

Ubuntu Netbook Edition is optimised to run on Intel atom based netbooks. It
includes a new consumer-friendly interface that allows users to quickly and
easily get on-line and use their favourite applications. This interface is
optimised for a retail sales environment.

It includes the same faster boot times and improved boot experience as
Ubuntu desktop.

Ubuntu Netbook on ARM
---------------------

The ARM optimised variant of Ubuntu Netbook comes with a lightweight
application selection tailored specifically for ARM deployments, including a
web-based office and mail solution and a launcher that works with and
without graphics acceleration.

Kubuntu features
----------------

Kubuntu 10.04 LTS will be the first LTS to feature KDE 4 Platform and
Applications.  KDE 4 has come a long way since its early releases and is now
suitable for the high demands of LTS users.  Being an LTS we have focused on
bug fixing and stability for this release, but we did find time to add
features such as touchpad configuration, Firefox KDE integration, Kubuntu
notification improvements, and cross-desktop systray menu standardisation.
Kubuntu features the Plasma Desktop while Kubuntu Netbook Remix comes out of
preview status with the Plasma Netbook workspace.

See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LucidLynx/RC/Kubuntu for more details.

Edubuntu features
-----------------

Edubuntu 10.04 includes many new features, updates and fixes. Some
highlights
include:

LTSP and the Ubuntu Netbook Remix interface can now be installed from the
Live DVD right after system installation. The disc also features Live LTSP,
which allows you to try out LTSP without making any permanent changes to
your machine.

New and updated software, including a new menu editor for menus that can be
applied to user profiles. GBrainy is a new program in the Edubuntu suite
that excercises your brain.

A new icon theme which uses more descriptive icons, a new wallpaper and boot
splash screen as well as more subtle window theming that is easier on the
eyes.

Mythbuntu features
------------------

Mythbuntu 10.04 introduces MythTV 0.23.  This new version is significantly
faster and should feel more responsive and stable than older versions.  It
also integrates better into the OS with better support for things like
ConsoleKit and Upstart.

Please see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Release_Notes_-_0.23 for more details
about changes introduced in 0.23.

See http://mythbuntu.org/10.04/rc for information about the Mythbuntu
beta release.


A more complete tour of the features new in 10.04 LTS can be found at
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004overview


About Ubuntu
------------

Ubuntu is a full-featured Linux distribution for desktops, laptops, netbooks
and servers, with a fast and easy installation and regular releases.  A
tightly-integrated selection of excellent applications is included, and an
incredible variety of add-on software is just a few clicks away.

Professional services including support are available from Canonical and
hundreds of other companies around the world.  For more information about
support, visit http://www.ubuntu.com/support

To Get the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release Candidate
---------------------------------------------

To upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release Candidate from Ubuntu 9.10 or Ubuntu
8.04 LTS, follow these instructions:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades

Or, to perform a new installation or try out 10.04 LTS "live" from CD,
download the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release Candidate here (choose the mirror
closest to you):

  Africa:

    * http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Botswana)
    * http://ls.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Lesotho)
    * http://mz.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Mozambique)
    * http://na.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Namibia)
    * http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/10.04 (South Africa)

  Asia:

    * http://ubunturelease.hnsdc.com/10.04 (India)
    * http://ubuntutym2.u-toyama.ac.jp/ubuntu/10.04 (Japan)
    * http://ubuntu.qualitynet.net/releases/10.04 (Kuwait)
    * http://ftp.mtu.ru/pub/ubuntu/releases/10.04 (Russian Federation)
    * http://mirror.yandex.ru/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Russian Federation)
    * http://ubuntu.mirrors.isu.net.sa/releases/10.04 (Saudi Arabia)
    * http://ftp.linux.org.tr/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Turkey)

  Europe:

    * http://ubuntu.ipacct.com/releases/10.04 (Bulgaria)
    * http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Croatia)
    * http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/ubuntu-cd/10.04 (Denmark)
    * http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Estonia)
    * http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/1... (Finland)
    * http://ftp.oleane.net/ubuntu-cd/10.04 (France)
    * http://ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Germany)
    * http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu.iso/10.04 (Germany)
    * http://speglar.simnet.is/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Iceland)
    * http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Ireland)
    * http://releases.ubuntu.fastbull.org/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Italy)
    * http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04 (Netherlands)
    * http://no.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Norway)
    * http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Poland)
    * http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Portugal)
    * http://mirrors.xservers.ro/ubuntu/releases/10.04 (Romania)
    * http://ftp.antik.sk/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Slovakia)
    * http://ubuntu.cica.es/releases/10.04 (Spain)
    * http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Sweden)
    * http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/10.04 (Switzerland)

  North America:

    * http://archaea.its.sfu.ca/mirror/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Canada)
    * http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Canada)
    * http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/10.04 (United States)
    * http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/10.04 (United States)
    * http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/10.04 (United States)
    * http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (United States)

  Oceania/Australia:

    * http://ubuntu-releases.optus.net/10.04 (Australia)
    * http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (New Zealand)
    * http://mirror.ihug.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (New Zealand)

  South America:

    * http://ubuntu.c3sl.ufpr.br/releases/10.04 (Brazil)
    * http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Brazil)
    * http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/ubuntu-releases/10.04 (Brazil)

  Rest of the world:

    http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04 (Great Britain)

Please download using Bittorrent if possible.  See
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent for more information about
using BitTorrent.

Feedback and Participation
--------------------------

If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you
can participate at

  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/

Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help turn this
Release Candidate into the best release of Ubuntu ever.  Please note that,
where possible, we prefer that bugs be reported using the tools provided,
rather than by visiting Launchpad directly.  Instructions can be found at

  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs

If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but are not
sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu
Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:

  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

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----------------

You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this preview release on our
website, IRC channel and wiki. If you are new to Ubuntu, please visit: 

  http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Minor nitpick

Posted Apr 22, 2010 17:04 UTC (Thu) by proski (guest, #104) [Link] (1 responses)

ftp.mtu.ru and mirror.yandex.ru are both located in Moscow, and thus not in Asia.

Users in the European part of Russia would rather download from Western Europe than from Siberia. They won't even look for local mirrors in the section called Asia.

Minor nitpick

Posted Apr 22, 2010 19:44 UTC (Thu) by dholbach (guest, #53300) [Link]

I reported this as a bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/568638

Thanks.

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 22, 2010 20:26 UTC (Thu) by pseelig (guest, #6796) [Link] (17 responses)

When i tried the Beta, it profoundly annoyed me that gdm doesn't offer any possibility to configure it to offer remote X login via XDMCP. Does this still hold true with this RC?

I can't believe that making software easy to use should result in removing all the features and advantages which used to make it great. :(

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 22, 2010 21:55 UTC (Thu) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link] (12 responses)

Why do you assume that the gdm features or lack there of are something Canonical developers have a say in?

The reality is... Canonical held back from shipping a current gdm as shipped with gnome point releases very several Ubuntu release cycles because gdm was going through a major redesign and the felt using it would have too many regressions. Instead of digging in and helping upstream with bringing the new gdm up to feature parity with the old one...they kept and old gdm and hoped that other people, other corporate interests, other distributions would do the work they thought necessary for their own userbase.

Eventually it became too much of a burden to try to maintain the old gdm as more gnome components made use of the new gdm design. With Lucid they've finally decided to bite the bullet and move to the new gdm.. feature regressions and all.

-jef

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 5:44 UTC (Fri) by patrick_g (subscriber, #44470) [Link] (7 responses)

It's not specific to Ubuntu.
I suggest you read this interesting post from Josselin Mouette (Debian dev): http://np237.livejournal.com/28463.html

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 8:40 UTC (Fri) by gowen (guest, #23914) [Link] (6 responses)

It's Jef Spaleta. Facts, nuance and differences of opinion come a distant second when there's an opportunity to bash ubuntu.

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 16:09 UTC (Fri) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (2 responses)

To Jef's credit it seemed to me he was actually explaining why this was not Canonicals' fault but upstream-induced and how Canonical even tried to stall for time in the hope upstream would address the feature regressions.

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 17:43 UTC (Fri) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (1 responses)

I read it as an attack on Ubuntu for not having worked on fixing the bug, first by ignoring the upstream changes (not helping fix it), and then by just switching to the upstream version without fixing the problem

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 18:04 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

So the original post I was responding to wasn't an attack? By my explanation was? Did I say they made a wrong or a bad choice? They made a choice.. and those choices have consequences.

And furthermore Canonical has addressed some of the problems by quickly putting together a replacement for the gdmconfig gui for their own users. It doesn't address everything. But its probably fair to say its the best effort that can be made without actively getting involved in gdm development. Is that sort of reactive downstream effort enough to satisfy their own users?

I haven't seen Canonical bring this tool up for discussion in gnome upstream for a heads up and to see if it fits in with the gdm roadmapping. I might have missed it. As always I'd love a reference to a public discussion between Canonical and upstream developers. If there is any evidence that Canonical is making a firm engineering commitment to be an active part of the Gnome code development..I haven't seen it.

The money for a sysadmin and the upgrade of gnome bugzilla are nice to see. Better launchpad integration with Gnome is surely beneficial to Canonical so it makes some sense for them to be the driver for the bugzilla upgrade. There's a lesson there about driving your own needs into upstream projects that could be applied equally to the gdm situation. But neither of those things are going to help prevent wide and prolonged divergences between upstream's development focus and Canonical's deliverables. Prevention of that nature requires proactive engagement into the upstream process. Is it an attack on Canonical to say that?

-jef

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 16:58 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link] (2 responses)

Point of fact... its Canonical not Ubuntu that I'm bashing. I'm pretty consistent about that.

I thought I was actually sort of defending Canonical there. It's not their fault that gdm lost features in the re-write was introduced several gnome releases ago back in 2008. How could it be? they aren't involved in gdm upstream development in any significant way, happily patching in features into their downstream version of gdm instead of helping with the re-write.

If you haven't read the gnome 2.24 release discussion about releasing gdm 2.24 from the fall of 2008...you should.

Here's the hard reality.... there's zero guarantee that the features a specific distribution feels are important will be in the next version of _any_ software. A distribution is free to hold back a version of any component if they feel it better meets there needs...that's perfectly acceptible. But that should be a big red flag moment when it happens to a core piece of technology..especially for a quickly moving corporately sponsored distribution to do a quick health check between upstream roadmapping and internal interests...especially when those features don't materialize for 3+ of your distribution releases.

It's one thing to hold back on one release because you were taken by surprise. It's something else to hold back on two releases because you don't have the in-house expertise on staff to make quality contributions to the upstream project. But 3+ releases? You can't just hunker down and hope upstream is planning on implementing the features you feel you need. At some point you have to step up and be a part of that upstream development process. Upstream maintainers said as much in this case in their own words back in 2008. History has sort of proved them right.

Shuttleworth is all about "less is more" these days in Canonical's own design work... the gdm developers were way ahead of Shuttleworth-think on that score it seems.

-jef

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 22:56 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

Pah, they had nothing on the gnome-session developers. What do you mean you want the ability to save your session or save the state of applications that conform to the X Session Management Protocol rather than our new whizzy DBus-based protocol which even most GNOME apps don't use yet? Why would you want to do that?

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 24, 2010 13:13 UTC (Sat) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

And it's still not working correctly either I think. It doesn't seem to save my "xterm +sb -geometry ... -e alpine" xterms. At one point it /tried/ to save session state for them, but then would crash on session start - that was fun.

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 10:02 UTC (Fri) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link] (2 responses)

Christ, why don't you move on with your life?

When I read "Comments: 6" I said to myself "I bet one of those is jspaleta". Whaddya know?

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 27, 2010 15:20 UTC (Tue) by cry_regarder (subscriber, #50545) [Link] (1 responses)

Jef is an expert at revealing hypocrisy. If his whip hurts, you should ask yourself why.

Cry

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 27, 2010 22:36 UTC (Tue) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

It would be more generous to say "inconsistency" instead of "hypocrisy."

-jef

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted May 2, 2010 14:58 UTC (Sun) by dmag (guest, #17775) [Link]

> The reality is... Canonical held back from shipping a current gdm as shipped with gnome point releases very several Ubuntu release cycles because gdm was going through a major redesign and the felt using it would have too many regressions.

Thanks for digging this up and explaining it. So far, it's a useful comment.

> Instead of digging in and helping upstream with bringing the new gdm up to feature parity with the old one...they kept and old gdm and hoped that other people, other corporate interests, other distributions would do the work they thought necessary for their own userbase.

Ok, here's where the comment goes bad. I assume that the missing feature will hurt Canonicals' sales to the business market. I also assume that they know this and they are aware of the problem. It's likely that they made an explicit decision not to fund/work on this project. The decision was likely a combination of "not highest priority" and "not enough resources".

It's OK for you to point out that they made this decision. But it's not OK for you to tell them what to do, or to single them out. (Your argument applies to all (most?) other Linux distributors. Are you going to attack Patrick Volkerding for not writing this code too?)

It's fine to be critical of Canonical, but stop trying to pin "everything bad that happens in Linux" on them.

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 23, 2010 22:22 UTC (Fri) by tseaver (guest, #1544) [Link] (2 responses)

I'm pretty sure the last time I used XDMCP was more than ten years ago, and I have been doing heavy-duty remote administration and software development using Linux laptops for the whole time. Tunneling X over SSH has worked fine in the rare cases wher I have need to run an X client on the remote host.

Maybe Canonical just decided that holding back gdm to preserve an infrequently-used feature was not worth the trouble it was causing?

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 24, 2010 13:15 UTC (Sat) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link]

It's a shame there isn't a modern replacement for XDMCP though. E.g. it'd be nice if GDM advertised its availability (via SSH tunneling) through bonjour/mDNS, and other GDM instances could use that auto-magically.

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 24, 2010 22:16 UTC (Sat) by pseelig (guest, #6796) [Link]

Well, we still use the XDMCP feature of gdm on a daily basis. We are using some cheap old machines as terminals running multiple X sessions on a much more powerful modern machine. So the removal of this feature is a bit unfortunate for our needs. Anyway, Debian is still retaining the older gdm for the time being, so we will stick with this until the new gdm is up to it again.
Nonetheless, I was simply not aware that the removal of this feature was not due to some exaggerated approach of making things easier than people like me would be able to bear. So in fact it is just the upstream source, which still lacks all the nice bells and whistles due to a complete rewrite. Don't really want to complain about that, as all this fine software is just an incredible gift! Being at least grateful is the least we can do, isn't it?
Furthermore, the Ubuntu team has all rights to choose any source version they prefer, even if we sometimes don't like it. Other than this gdm misfeature, this Ubuntu 10.04 LTS appears to be a real joy. Thanks a lot for that!

Still shipping a broken gdm without XDMCP option?

Posted Apr 26, 2010 7:44 UTC (Mon) by Gollum (guest, #25237) [Link]

One thing that bites me is that I don't see any good way to graphically administer a headless box, other than configuring it to log in automagically, and run vino to export a VNC session.

Using regular X over SSH doesn't seem to get the automatic "admin privileges" that sitting at the console gets you, and I can't figure out how to enable that for a "non-console" vncserver session.

Any hints, lazyweb? (and yes, I have googled for solutions, so I'm not really that lazy!)

_Release Candidate_

Posted Apr 23, 2010 16:14 UTC (Fri) by Tov (subscriber, #61080) [Link] (5 responses)

We consider this release candidate to be complete, stable, and suitable for testing by any user.

From release notes:
A memory leak in the X server's handling of 3D rendering will cause systems that use the default compiz window manager to become sluggish over time. This bug is being actively investigated and a resolution is expected for the final release of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. (565981)

There is something wrong with this picture...

Release Candidate? Depends on your interpretation

Posted Apr 23, 2010 17:14 UTC (Fri) by pr1268 (guest, #24648) [Link] (1 responses)

We consider this release candidate to be complete, stable, and suitable for testing by any user.

A memory leak ... will cause systems ... to become sluggish ...

Perhaps they have a liberal and broad interpretation of "complete", "stable", and "suitable". :-)

Enough bashing... It's to Ubuntu's credit that they acknowledge the bug and are announcing a fix.

Release Candidate? Depends on your interpretation

Posted Apr 24, 2010 20:44 UTC (Sat) by oak (guest, #2786) [Link]

>> and suitable for testing by any user.
> A memory leak ... will cause systems ... to become sluggish ...
> Perhaps they have a liberal and broad interpretation
> of "complete", "stable", and "suitable". :-)

Why slow memory leak would prevent something from being ready for *testing*? (for real use yes, but for testing?)

_Release Candidate_

Posted Apr 23, 2010 18:16 UTC (Fri) by arjan (subscriber, #36785) [Link]

Come one... stuff happens.

Most of such announcements are boilerplate and written well in advance.
Sometimes you have a (literally) last minute thing... getting it in the notes at all is a quite a feat.

_Release Candidate_

Posted Apr 24, 2010 7:04 UTC (Sat) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link] (1 responses)

It didn't affect everyone and those who were affected didn't necessarily see it.

Anyway, the fix has now been released, alas with the removal of GLX 1.4 support that was backported from xserver 1.8.

GLX 1.4 is ca. 10 years old already. Does anyone have any sort of list of applications that require it? I'd guess some proprietary applications.

_Release Candidate_

Posted Apr 26, 2010 4:46 UTC (Mon) by raof (subscriber, #57409) [Link]

If you've got one, I'd be very interested; so far, I've only found Clutter versions >= 1.2 that make use of GLX calls newer than 1.2 (and those are appropriately guarded by GLX version checks).

Release candidate for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now available

Posted Apr 27, 2010 9:18 UTC (Tue) by forlwn (guest, #63934) [Link]

Great and typical Linux/floss community at this holly floss place.

We hear and read everywhere. Linux is fragmented, divided, flamed, inside fights, zealots, and more of the kind. Anything causing casual visitors to turn away, floss has. Some say.But I found here about 20 comments, where most people agree with each other. At least, about xdmcp. I can only think the above mentioned floss writers are all M$ fans.

Now, getting on topic. It's obvious that Linux community (I don't know witch of it) would prefer that all successful newcomer distro, should start reinventing Linux, from top to bottom, left to right, and from 360 degrees. And not only. Should first speak upstream, ask for a check list of what's not done/unmaintained/wrongly done/defective by design/etc/ and get their hands dirt doing everybody's work. After that they would be allowed to start their distro work, and later release it... after the amen of a few more prominences.

More and better and fastest, do it yourself. You'll save the time and energy while thinking and ranting about who should do what you may also be able to. It's all so easy and so quick...Question: what does floss mean? Who still remember the old times? Myself will take good note: To some inside Floss, it mean closing doors to noobs, boycott and troll valuable new distro arrivals. It's not only M$ who spread the fud inside us.

The ideal scenery for some may be wait the old valuable and genial geeks to get older, retire and give place to the idiotics, now waiting their time in line to later on, redefine and reinvent a revolutionary and perfect philosophy to floss. Do we need it? Or do we need coders?


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