Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Posted Apr 8, 2010 14:14 UTC (Thu) by bangert (subscriber, #28342)Parent article: Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Is Google now shelling out more than Yahoo!? Why else would they change
back.
Posted Apr 8, 2010 14:36 UTC (Thu)
by leoc (guest, #39773)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 15:30 UTC (Thu)
by colo (guest, #45564)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 15:30 UTC (Thu)
by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
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Methinks the Yahoo! deal didn't go the way they wanted...
Posted Apr 8, 2010 15:36 UTC (Thu)
by JamieBennett (guest, #25846)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 16:00 UTC (Thu)
by drag (guest, #31333)
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Sorry, but that is just the way it is. They are about the only Linux OS remaining that is focusing on popularizing Linux rather then concentrating on a servers or catering to their existing userbase.
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There is are good reasons for that. Occasionally killing sacred cows is going to be one of them.
Posted Apr 8, 2010 16:18 UTC (Thu)
by bboissin (subscriber, #29506)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 18:53 UTC (Thu)
by fb (guest, #53265)
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Posted Apr 10, 2010 2:33 UTC (Sat)
by forlwn (guest, #63934)
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I made the following searches, now see what come out.
linux-2004 - 65.9 million hits
microsoft-windows-2004 - 32.6 million
Posted Apr 10, 2010 2:36 UTC (Sat)
by forlwn (guest, #63934)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 19:32 UTC (Thu)
by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
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Without even getting into issues of cross-brand penetration and what that means for doing comparative Google trending...if we just look at Ubuntu as a brand you'll see that the Google trend doesn't really make sense. It's been essentially stagnant across 2009 and so far in 2010. That's in direct conflict with the public statements Canonical executives have made concerning their estimated userbase growth over the same time period.
Nor is Google trends a reliable measure of relative deployment popularity. For example Google Trends shows exactly the opposite relative relationship between blackberry and iphone that the latest market survey data shows. Google Trends would suggest Ipod is the market leader..when the more traditional market survey says its blackberry.
references:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=blackberry%2C+iphone&c...
Anyone holding up Google Trends data as a meaningful surrogate for product popularity is wasting your time and giving you a false sense of reality. Noone, anywhere, has a self-consistent testable market penetration interpretation of Google Trends that holds up to scrutiny as a valid analysis methodology. Its an easy thing to reach for, but it has no intrinsic value as a market penetration metric.
-jef
Posted Apr 8, 2010 20:19 UTC (Thu)
by bboissin (subscriber, #29506)
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Posted Apr 12, 2010 1:17 UTC (Mon)
by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
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What is the interest of the data, if no conclusions can be reached from it?
Posted Apr 8, 2010 20:36 UTC (Thu)
by drag (guest, #31333)
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I don't think that Google Trend is a accurate representation of deployments, but it is a somewhat telling marker for general interest.
Linux for years and years was just that something that people may have seen in a magazine article or saw mentioned in the news or something like that. Almost off-hand.
As time went buy a few people of the sort that tend to be interested in computers looked around and found out about Linux.
And Linux advocates combined with the netbook fad have actually gotten Linux out into the minds eye of the general public in a way that it never has before. It's gotten as close to mainstream as anything else.
And.... Linux has had VERY mixed results. This is not a result of Microsoft FUD or SCO or anything like that. This is just the average person is now exposed to Linux in the real world in ways that has never happened before.
Used to be if I was talking about computers in a group or talking about how to get rid of viruses or whatever and the subject came up and I would mention that I used Linux people would say: "Oh, what's that?"
Then I would have to awkwardly explain it in a quick way so as not to be a bore. Maybe tell them to download a Knoppix or something if they acted curious.
Nowadays those responses are mixed in with "You use Linux?! Oh, God; why?", to which I can only shrug and laugh and tell them it works for me.
Linux is the OS that refused to grow up. People who would be borderline interested are just starting to get tired of it due to chronic issues that never get seem to get solved on the desktop.
People that have had no interest to begin with still have no interest.
As far as professionals go, I think the majority of business IT folks are learning that Linux is a tool and there are very appropriate places to use it and thus the interest in the business sector is still going to increase as people's Linux skill sets continue to improve and systems becomes increasingly easy to manage and deploy.
But that sort of IT professional is only a tiny part of a potential market.
Posted Apr 8, 2010 22:05 UTC (Thu)
by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 23:30 UTC (Thu)
by bboissin (subscriber, #29506)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 16:56 UTC (Thu)
by clugstj (subscriber, #4020)
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Posted Apr 8, 2010 18:32 UTC (Thu)
by ariveira (guest, #57833)
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When threads like this turn out it always remind me of
Morrissey - We hate it when our friends become successful
Posted Apr 8, 2010 16:56 UTC (Thu)
by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
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Rick does however mention "unpredictable" circumstances? Are you implying that Canonical wasn't able to predict that current users who show a preference for Google? What's unpredictable about user opinion in this case? It should have been well known that Yahoo! provided less relevant for Ubuntu related search results than Google...that was something easily testable before Yahoo! was made the default. Something users tested for themselves. Did Canonical do that sort of testing internally prior to switching everyone to Yahoo!?
Now if there was only a way to estimate how many Ubuntu users are going to be using Yahoo! when its not the default...we could affirm whether that revenue deal is really still relevant or not.
-jef
When they originally made the switch, they cited the revenue sharing deal. It definitely smells fishy to me that they are not giving a reason for switching back.
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
preferences, [...]) reeks of total bs - but I can agree with
your way of putting it, I guess.
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+fedora%2C+redhat...
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
http://www.google.com/trends?
q=ubuntu,+fedora,+redhat,+debian,+linux&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
This is quite a (sad) picture as well
http://www.google.com/
trends?q=linux,+windows,+mac&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
linux-2009 - 173,0 million
microsoft-windows-2010 - 106.0 hits
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
http://www.e-gear.com/article/blackberry-leads-smartphone...
http://www.google.com/trends?q=blackberry%2C+iphone&c...
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google
Ubuntu switches search back to Google