The ongoing MySQL campaign

> We seem to be thinking completely differently here. As I see it, a company producing both closed source and open source code is the rule, not the exception. MySQL Ab did it, Sun did it, you mentioned EnterpriseDB that does it... IBM, HP... But I wasn't even thinking of those, rather end users.

We *are* thinking of the same thing: end users.

Let me rephrase what I had said, (and I'm sorry that I wasn't clear enough earlier). I had said "How many organisations do you know that have both proprietary products and open source products?". Now s/have/distribute/ in that sentence.

End users do not distribute. And so they can do what they damn well please, even mix GPL v2 and v3 (gasp!) if they wish, for their in house development. For products they purchase, they'll buy support. For OSS products they just use without buying support, nothing changes anyway.

[As for IT/ITES companies like the names you mentioned or indeed my own employer -- in that business they'd better be able to deal with any popular piece of software that their customers might be using or want to use instead of trying to standardise.]

...but...

all this is moot. I should have just focused on this one point in your previous post and ignored everything else, because as far as I am concerned that is the crux. You said:

> As for the open question, don't take this as any official response, but the answer has already been given above: 1) The primary concern was always the MySQL customers that use MySQL for proprietary SW,

You're the first MPAB person who's said this so far, (AFAIK of course).

Go back to the top of the page and take a look at the abstract that Jon put up. If you don't see a major, major, disconnect between what you said above and that abstract, there really is nothing to discuss anymore.

If you do, you might want to tell your boss about it. I do not speak for anyone but myself but this is the basis for my feelings of outrage, even disgust, at what Monty is doing.

It also appears that melodrama, rhetoric, even hysteria ("help keep the internet free"? come on...!), have become his stock in trade. Normally I wouldn't take digs like this at people in a public forum, but in this case it's part of the real problem -- he's essentially rabble rousing because his main point is false, and patently so.