Re: Mailing List Etiquette

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:54:00PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On Friday 21 August 2009 16:54:16 Theodore Tso wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:55:28AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > > From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> > > Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:39:53 +0100
> > > 
> > > > To me that shows you have an extremely selfish attitude.
> > > 
> > > Ok Mr. "My Way Or the Highway"
> > > 
> > > A lot of us are tired of your crap, and like Alan Cox I can't take you
> > > seriously at all.
> > 
> > Seconded.  At this point, I would suggest the right answer is to make
> 
> I'm not sure whether seconding ad-persona attacks in Russell's direction
> from people who do absolutely no ARM work is the desirable way forward..
> 
> I can understand Pavel's arguments and has backed him once myself but ARM
> co-maintainers have voiced plausible pro-LAK arguments in the meantime..
> 
> There has been progress on the issue recently but changes like that do
> not happen overnight without serious (negative) impacts on the work flow
> and require both planning and time to do properly.
> 
> Yet people continued to stress out Russell instead of giving him break..
> 
> Bart
> (who is a bystander but who is appalled by the way LAK-issue was handled)

What it basically shows is how intolerant the mainline kernel community
members have become towards people who hold a different view to them.
The attitude is: either conform or you're an idiot and we're going to
attack you until you conform.

I do hope others see what has happened here, and seriously consider
whether they want to get involved in a sniping dictatorial community.
Maybe considering to go down the BSD route instead.

Someone in this thread once said that he was amazed that ARM vendors
hadn't gone running to BSD due to my "attitude problem".  Well, given
how I've been repeatedly hounded in the last couple of months, I
wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't see an overall reduction in
the takeup of Linux on ARM as people realise the kind of behaviour
they can expect when talking to mainline people.

Will I be going to this years kernel summit after how I've been treated
over this and the lies over the Google issue a couple of months ago?
Absolutely no way.  I'm totally disgusted with the behaviour now being
shown by a powerful minority of the mainline kernel community, and I
don't see why I should end up in the same room as such a clearly
hostile group of people.

Does this mean I'll be giving up completely with ARM?  No, I intend to
continue my work as before, just not running the contravertial mailing
lists.  However, I really doubt that the attacks won't stop, and we'll
see more of them over the next few months.

But... maybe I'm paranoid.  No, I don't think I am.

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