OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Jul 29, 2009 20:06 UTC (Wed) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
In reply to: OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd by drag
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Can you point at a single example of people being persecuted for thought crimes on this issue? While it'd be awesome if people didn't think of women as inferior or primarily as sex objects or as jealous whiners, realistically the aim is to discourage patterns of behaviour, not thought. We're trying to avoid people being discouraged from getting involved in the community in the first place.

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OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Aug 2, 2009 22:50 UTC (Sun) by Baylink (guest, #755) [Link] (2 responses)

Yes, us.

We believe that the problem is not as general, or as clear cut, as the people we're arguing with, and when we try to break it down into its constituent parts, and come to a clear understanding, we're called "derailers", and in other ways diminished and minimalized, merely for failing to kowtow to their unproven assertions about what's really going on.

I, personally, would call that being accused of a thought crime -- especially since what I'm trying to do is give thought to the issue.

I will, of course, be shouted down here as well... who knows; maybe I'll get a death threat.

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Aug 3, 2009 20:23 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

Now you're making fun of people receiving death threats. You do realise
that your actions here are making you appear at *best* contemptible?

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Aug 3, 2009 20:42 UTC (Mon) by Baylink (guest, #755) [Link]

It should have been perfectly clear that what I was making fun of was the idea that death threats are in any way *caused* by the behaviour of the person being threatened.

Sorry that's not clear to you.