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OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Jul 29, 2009 15:16 UTC (Wed) by dannyobrien (subscriber, #25583)
In reply to: OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd by smadu2
Parent article: OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

It's very possible to feel out of place (do you remember when you first started posting?): it is entirely possible that it is even more unwelcoming for some people than others.

When I *once* adopted a female-sounding pseudonym in such a space (by accident -- my usual username was taken), I received a threat of violence.

One of the people (not in this discussion, but another of the many on Skud's talk, which was excellent, reasonable and perceptive), has been arguing that women are complaining too much about sexism in open source. I know that this man harassed at least one woman coder on a project -- sending her inappropriate males, groping her in real life. The woman involved won't speak up because to do so will subject her to this kind of barrage of abuse and suspicion online, and she received no back up when she mentioned it to her male colleagues at the time.

Why bother? Why not just go to an environment that is friendlier, and not have to constantly fight within an environment where even criticising is viewed as "whining" about nothing, and whose conversation simply highlights how much people ignore and tolerate behaviour that in other communities would result in censure?

I'm really glad there are now projects that won't put up with this kind of crap in the open source community and wish them the best of luck. As the keynote says, I suspect they are heading for a much larger community of contributors, and will reap the benefits of attracting brilliant individuals who have been systematically derided and excluded in many of our projects until now.


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OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Jul 29, 2009 23:58 UTC (Wed) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] (2 responses)

> When I *once* adopted a female-sounding pseudonym in such a space (by
> accident -- my usual username was taken), I received a threat of violence.

Sobering. Distressingly sobering. It only takes a single arsehole -- in a private communication -- to make a public, supposedly all-welcoming, space into an extremely hostile, threatening arena. One must feel as though thrown to the lions.

> The woman involved won't speak up because to do so will subject her
> to this kind of barrage of abuse and suspicion online, and she
> received no back up when she mentioned it to her male colleagues
> at the time.

With colleagues like that, who needs stalkers? I'm very disappointed.

It's a pity this anecdote is anonymous. I am very glad that others are not.

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Aug 12, 2009 23:27 UTC (Wed) by linuxrocks123 (subscriber, #34648) [Link] (1 responses)

I've said a lot about this without ever doing this, intentionally or by accident. I think I'll try this sometime as an experiment.

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Aug 12, 2009 23:28 UTC (Wed) by linuxrocks123 (subscriber, #34648) [Link]

I meant adopting a female-sounding pseudonym somewhere, btw.

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Jul 30, 2009 1:50 UTC (Thu) by Baylink (guest, #755) [Link] (1 responses)

Why *not* go to another project?

Schily scared everyone away from cdrecord, finally, and now we have wodim, and we don't have to deal with it anymore.

Is not the alternative merely enabling?

OSCON keynote: Standing out in the crowd

Posted Jul 30, 2009 9:44 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

That would be a more impressive argument if wodim wasn't almost entirely
maintenance-dead.

(Of course, that's because it basically *works*.)


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