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NixOS: purely functional system configuration management

NixOS: purely functional system configuration management

Posted Jun 26, 2009 12:30 UTC (Fri) by Duncan (guest, #6647)
In reply to: NixOS: purely functional system configuration management by TRauMa
Parent article: NixOS: purely functional system configuration management

In addition, there seems no provision for the customizability that is the
forte of Gentoo and a good portion of the benefit of building from source
in the first place. Either that, or that aspect simply wasn't covered.

Where's the system default CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS (Gentoo's make.conf settings),
with the ability to override them per-package (Gentoo's /etc/portage/env),
without having to edit the pre-packaged nix expressions (Gentoo ebuilds)?
Where's the ability to specify compile-time dependencies (Gentoo USE
flags, both make.conf and package.use), again without having to edit the
pre-packaged nix expressions?

Maybe nix has that and it simply wasn't covered, as customizing to that
degree isn't something the binary distributions could do. But it's a
major benefit to building from source, which nix does, so it'd have been
nice to have a description of how that's handled, or a definite no, it
doesn't handle that. Without it, tho, I don't know as I'd consider it
worth the trouble to run compile-from-source, as that really is one of the
biggest benefits of doing so.

Meanwhile, Gentoo has config-protect functionality, with rollback if
desired, depending on one's choice of config reconciliation tool. And
binpkgs allow reasonably easy no-recompile rollback to previous package
versions for the binaries, while keeping them in a centralized location.
While centralized does mean everything uses the same library version,
there are tools to resolve breakage, automating the recompiles, and
it /does/ eliminate the security updates issue others mentioned for NixOS.

Now Gentoo does not have per-user installations and user installable
packages by default, but the Gentoo/prefix project addresses that,
allowing package installation at arbitrary prefixes, including home dirs,
for various Linux and non-Linux (FreeBSD, etc) installations.

Still, NixOS is using a very interesting idea, and as it matures, it could
well give Gentoo and other build-from-source distributions a run for their
money. If the (currently) much more mature Gentoo wasn't around filling
my needs better, I could certainly see giving NixOS a try, and who knows
what'll happen over a few years? As I said, I could see it giving Gentoo
a run for its money. Its devs definitely have the guts it takes to go
against the flow and develop something that really does fill a niche
filled imperfectly if at all by others, and as such, certainly has the
potential to become the leading from-source distribution, a position
Gentoo has filled for most of this century so far.

Duncan


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