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Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Posted Apr 23, 2009 14:17 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Parent article: Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

HAL is being ported to FreeBSD, and at the same time the HAL hackers say that HAL is obsolete and is being replaced with something that barely exists yet (whose name I forget).


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Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Posted Apr 23, 2009 16:27 UTC (Thu) by chema (subscriber, #32636) [Link]

Perhaps you are refering to DeviceKit.

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Posted Apr 23, 2009 18:50 UTC (Thu) by jimparis (subscriber, #38647) [Link]

... or udev, which might replace DeviceKit? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2009-A...

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Posted Apr 23, 2009 21:57 UTC (Thu) by jengelh (subscriber, #33263) [Link]

What's with all the ominous kits? They only float likes kites...

ConsoleKit, PolicyKit, and now DeviceKit. What's next?

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Posted Apr 23, 2009 23:28 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]

Kits are cool. I think it's just a way of saying "Use this if you write a desktop app and want to do X".

So if you want to program a app to work with devices.. you use devicekit! Then there is devicekit-power and devicekit-disk and such things.

I think that right now people are trying to find the correct layers of abstraction here... If you make the layers to think then the individual tools become way too complex and difficult to manage. Make the layer to high level and then application developers will avoid using your tools and then you get to many people running around making redundant and conflicting functionality. Make the layers to low and then you run into putting a high burden on app developers and you end up with conflicting functionality.

That sort of thing. I think that they are just searching around for the best way to do things before it all gets set in stone.

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD: one more step towards a universal operating system

Posted Apr 24, 2009 10:34 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Yes, one of those, probably, perhaps.

(And people wonder why HAL et al get an awful reputation? Documentation is
sparse, information on *which you should use* is even less clear, and they
get replaced with other variations on the same theme before they even get
released but *after* they've been puffed as the Latest New Thing in many
google-searchable areas, where they'll stay as wrong signposts forever.)


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