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ext4 and data loss

ext4 and data loss

Posted Mar 17, 2009 7:12 UTC (Tue) by jzbiciak (subscriber, #5246)
In reply to: ext4 and data loss by flewellyn
Parent article: ext4 and data loss

That's a bit heavy for a barrier though. A barrier just needs to ensure ordering, not actually ensure the data is on the disk. Those are distinct needs.

For example, if I use mb(), I'm assured that other CPUs will see that every memory access before mb() completed before every memory access after mb(). That's it. The call to mb() doesn't ensure that the data gets written out of the cache to its final endpoint though. So, if I'm caching, say, a portion of the video display buffer, there's no guarantee I'll see the writes I made before the call to mb() appear on the screen. Typically, though, all that's needed and desired is a mechanism to guarantee things happen in a particular order so that you move from one consistent state to the next.

The atomic-replace-by-rename carries this sort of implicit barrier in many peoples' minds, it seems. Delaying the rename until the data actually gets allocated and committed is all this application requires. It doesn't actually require the data to be on the disk.

In other words, fsync() is too big a hammer. It's like flushing the CPU cache to implement mb().

Is there an existing API that just says "keep these things in this order" without actually also spinning up the hard drive? With the move to more battery powered machines and media that wears out the more it's written to, it seems like a bad idea to ask developers to force the filesystem to do more writes.

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