Ted speaks again
Ted speaks again
Posted Mar 16, 2009 15:34 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304)In reply to: Ted speaks again by regala
Parent article: Garrett: ext4, application expectations and power management
Er, I at least was pointing out that 99% of Unix app developers don't read
POSIX in the kind of detail required to figure out how to write a file
without losing it if the power fails (it's not just fsync()). Thus, if we
don't want our systems to be regarded as unreliable by virtually everyone,
we have to do what the applications developers expect, even if they *are*
boneheaded ignorant morons (as indeed ext4 and btrfs now do).
POSIX in the kind of detail required to figure out how to write a file
without losing it if the power fails (it's not just fsync()). Thus, if we
don't want our systems to be regarded as unreliable by virtually everyone,
we have to do what the applications developers expect, even if they *are*
boneheaded ignorant morons (as indeed ext4 and btrfs now do).
And, 'know your place'? WTF? This isn't an empire and Ted is not King:
although he is surely worthy of respect, we peons are not forbidden to
talk to the Mighty. This is a *good* thing, ffs.