Ubuntu debates usability changes
Posted Mar 5, 2009 5:29 UTC (Thu) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Mar 5, 2009 5:36 UTC (Thu) by jwb (guest, #15467)
If there's any uncertainty that the computer has recognized the peripheral, then THAT is a major bug in the operating system. You only need confirmations when you have to constantly worry that the computer has failed.
A better notification would be "A USB device was attached, but the computer doesn't recognize it. Sorry." But to pop up a notification for success of peripheral attachment is just dumb.
Posted Mar 5, 2009 6:43 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
It's going to take a big change in mindset but I do hope it happens. One day Linux developers are no longer going to be surprised when a hardware device just works like it should. :)
Posted Mar 5, 2009 10:45 UTC (Thu) by NAR (subscriber, #1313)
That's wrong. There can be many problems in attaching an USB device (broken cable, not working USB connector, turned off device or simply someone forgot to plug the cable), so it's useful to have some feedback even on success.
Posted Mar 5, 2009 11:11 UTC (Thu) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167)
If someone's excited about notifications for USB devices, let them first go solve the case that's agreed to be a problem, which is when a user plugs in their USB Foobaz, and Linux doesn't have a suitable driver. udev (with perhaps a small tweak to the kernel) can figure out that nothing uses this device and /that/ is worth telling the user about. "Vender Inc Foobaz connected but you don't have a driver for it [Don't show me this again]".
Once /that/ works, it is extensible in a good way ("Connected device needs firmware file FooBaz-1.28.bin. Please install firmware and re-connect" and "The FooBaz webcam you've connected has an unsupported Baz controller") which tell a technical user what they need to know, and provide the non-technical user something useful to report to their tech support.
Posted Mar 6, 2009 0:27 UTC (Fri) by maney (subscriber, #12630)
Posted Mar 6, 2009 6:46 UTC (Fri) by cpeterso (guest, #305)
Fortunately, I could imagine a Linux notification system using (something like) apt-get to download new drivers might actually work correctly. :)
Posted Mar 6, 2009 6:48 UTC (Fri) by jwb (guest, #15467)
Posted Mar 5, 2009 12:06 UTC (Thu) by ctwise (guest, #10952)
Posted Mar 6, 2009 6:51 UTC (Fri) by cpeterso (guest, #305)
* Growl is a single application, reducing memory usage
* Growl has an extensible notification API, so application developers can write new application-specific notifications
* Growl is a one-stop-shop for the user to control all (system and application) notifications. Each notification can be independently disabled, made sticky, or a timed message.
Posted Mar 7, 2009 0:48 UTC (Sat) by dmag (guest, #17775)
I want to route all the silly pop-ups to my IM program. That way I can scroll thru them, etc.
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