|From:||Jean Delvare <khali-AT-linux-fr.org>|
|To:||John Pilkington <J.Pilk-AT-tesco.net>|
|Subject:||Re: POLL: for/against dropping support for kernels < 2.6.22|
|Date:||Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:15:40 +0100|
|Cc:||Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-AT-xs4all.nl>, linux-media-AT-vger.kernel.org|
Hi John, (re-adding linux-media on Cc as I doubt you dropped it on purpose...) On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:46:04 +0000, John Pilkington wrote: > Jean Delvare wrote: > > > * Enterprise-class distributions (RHEL, SLED) are not the right target > > for the v4l-dvb repository, so we don't care which kernels these are > > running. > > I think you should be aware that the mythtv and ATrpms communities > include a significant number of people who have chosen to use the > CentOS_5 series in the hope of getting systems that do not need to be > reinstalled every few months. I hope you won't disappoint them. CentOS is a parasite, if it dies I can't care less. CentOS users have the recurrent habit to expect professional support from the community without giving anything in return. Even worse: they consider that running an antediluvian OS is the default and they don't understand why upstream developers won't help them. You said it yourself: they expect to be able to keep the same system for a long time. This is a service you normally get from Red Hat or Novell, and you pay for it. This is something the community is generally not willing to offer for free, because it is not fun. If the MythTV community cares that much about the v4l-dvb tree, they are free to fork it right before support for kernel 2.6.18 is dropped, and maintain that copy themselves. But their model is broken to start with: sticking to a several-year-old kernel and OS, and OTOH picking critical (for their use case) kernel drivers from a development tree which evolves continuously by definition, makes little sense. Then again, I would be happy to keep support for them if the cost wasn't too high. But right now, the cost _is_ too high. Your view of community distributions is a bit too negative BTW. You don't need to go to the extreme CentOS_5 is to not have to reinstall every few months. openSUSE distributions are maintained for 2 years for example. -- Jean Delvare -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to email@example.com More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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