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Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend

From:  Matthew Garrett <mjg59-AT-srcf.ucam.org>
To:  Arjan van de Ven <arjan-AT-infradead.org>
Subject:  Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend
Date:  Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:51:41 +0000
Message-ID:  <20090217145141.GA26158@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc:  Brian Swetland <swetland-AT-google.com>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-AT-sisk.pl>, "Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2-AT-ti.com>, Alan Stern <stern-AT-rowland.harvard.edu>, Kyle Moffett <kyle-AT-moffetthome.net>, Oliver Neukum <oliver-AT-neukum.org>, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh-AT-kernel.crashing.org>, pm list <linux-pm-AT-lists.linux-foundation.org>, LKML <linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org>, Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= <arve-AT-android.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel-AT-ucw.cz>, Nigel Cunningham <nigel-AT-nigel.suspend2.net>, mark gross <mgross-AT-linux.intel.com>, Uli Luckas <u.luckas-AT-road.de>, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa-AT-nokia.com>, Len Brown <lenb-AT-kernel.org>
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:46:30AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> actually with powertop... on the open source side things are actually
> won. It took all of 6 months...
> I don't see that as a valid excuse. In fact, if this kind of solution
> makes real userspace scheduled timers to be missed then I consider it a
> serious functionality misfeature.

Remember that Android has an open marketplace designed to appeal to Java 
programmers - users are going to end up downloading code from there and 
then blaming the platform if their battery life heads towards zero. I 
think "We can't trust our userland not to be dumb" is a valid concern.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org


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