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Nicholas?

Posted Jan 7, 2009 22:51 UTC (Wed) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
In reply to: Nicholas? by ngiger@mus.ch
Parent article: Changes at OLPC

Getting Sugar deployed as a desktop option for standard linux distributions should significantly help with Sugar adoption. Sugar isn't tied to the OLPC hardware both Fedora and Ubuntu are working on making Sugar a desktop session option making it possible to put Sugar in from of kids (and adults) in places where OLPC isn't targeting any deployments.

I wonder how many of us who using a traditional linux desktop/laptop, could commit to using the Sugar environment for a month instead of our current desktop environment.

-jef

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Nicholas?

Posted Jan 7, 2009 23:46 UTC (Wed) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link] (1 responses)

I tried it on Debian today, with the update packages since Debian unstable is frozen. It needs some TLC. There's no good way, as far as I can tell, to install an activity on Debian. The software installation control panel applet is missing. I can install them from the browser, but they sit forever pulsing their icons when I try to start them.

Nicholas?

Posted Jan 8, 2009 0:02 UTC (Thu) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

I don't know the state of Sugar in Debian. I know people are working hard to make Sugar usable on Fedora. Fedora contributors have been publicly encouraged to help with the effort. There's even a Fedora Sugar live I believe:

http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-education-list@redhat....

Greg has a series of blog posts talking significantly about the effort and his personal experience using Sugar exclusively...but since livejournal just cratered it seems...i can't easily reference them here. I don't want to hand over a set of google cache urls, I'm not sure if that's appropriate.

They've been working hard recently to get the presence server up and running so the collaborative elements of Sugar applications work.

-jef

Nicholas?

Posted Jan 7, 2009 23:55 UTC (Wed) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link]

I've got a few XO machines, I think Sugar is a big mistake and the sooner that there are options to not use it the better.

there are a couple of major issues to be resolved before Sugar can be an option on a normal machine (and these issues need to be solved for the OLPC project as well)

don't push things to hard or you will have people try stuff that doesn't work and turn into bitter opponents.