|From:||Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A-AT-public.gmane.org>|
|To:||Adrian Bunk <bunk-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A-AT-public.gmane.org>|
|Subject:||Re: [ANNOUNCE] OSS Proxy using CUSE|
|Date:||Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:33:14 +0200|
|Cc:||Takashi Iwai <tiwai-l3A5Bk7waGM-AT-public.gmane.org>, Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w-AT-public.gmane.org>, fuse-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f-AT-public.gmane.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA-AT-public.gmane.org>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos-sUDqSbJrdHQHWmgEVkV9KA-AT-public.gmane.org>|
Adrian Bunk wrote: > Sorry for being destructive, but 6 years after ALSA went into the > kernel we are slightly approaching the point where all applications > support ALSA. Yeah, I have to agree it's a bit too late but the exclusion between OSS and more modern sound systems (be it ALSA or PA) still bugged me quite a bit. There always seems this one off app that wasn't quite there - be it mpg123 for whatever reason I still enjoy to use from time to time, vmware which is a genuine pain in the ass to get working with LD_PRELOAD tricks (hopefully 6.5 will finally use ALSA but wait we're all going PA now...) or scorch-3D (and many other games) where aoss delivers horrible sound after playing for a while. > The application you list on your webpage is UML host sound support, > and I'm wondering why you don't fix that instead of working on a > better OSS emulation? Other than OSS emulation, CUSE seemed like an idea which might be able to stand on its own legs, say, for legacy or proprietary device emulation or just putting what used to be considered kernel-worthy to userland. Anyways, the thing is that unlike what was originally expected, dropping an major programming API doesn't really work too well even after six years of trying. Maybe because OSS is still kicking on other unices. We now have in-kernel OSS emulation which can't mux with other streams, aoss with its own supported and broken list and can also be routed through PA by configuring ALSA right and then padsp with its own supported and broken list and nothing works good enough. So, if we have one thing which just works, we can in time put all those to rest. Thanks. -- tejun ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&...
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