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What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 9:20 UTC (Thu) by grantingram (guest, #18390)
Parent article: Directions for GNOME 3.0

When you do "save image as" in your web browser, it will default to ~/Downloads or even ~/Desktop. When you do "file/open" in the GIMP, it will default to the last directory you used...

This is something that winds me up on regular basis! But would you get to 90% of a solution by having open and save dialogs communicate with the file manger? That way if you had saved an image to ~/work/somerandomname a moment ago the GIMP would by default look for files in ~/work/somerandomname? rather than where you last worked with the GIMP?

Having said that the Journal idea sounds very cool and extremely worthwhile...


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What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 9:46 UTC (Thu) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

Take an image from a webpage, manipulate it and mail it to a friend? Why not simply
right click on that image, use "Open with" -> "Gimp", manipulate it, copy and paste it to
that email. There is no need to save any version of that image in any directory in that
example. Works perfectly well in KDE and I assume that gnome has similar capabilities.

There are for sure use cases that can profit from improvement. But this example seems
to be pretty badly chosen.

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 11:31 UTC (Thu) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

Works in KDE != Works in Gnome

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 11:39 UTC (Thu) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

If all that's missing is this "open with" entry in the menu, maybe it's better to just add
that and get all the benefits with just a minor change.
OTOH IMHO Gnome's file dialog can only become better anyway, so no harm done.

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 11:40 UTC (Thu) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

But would you get to 90% of a solution by having open and save dialogs communicate with the file manger? That way if you had saved an image to ~/work/somerandomname a moment ago the GIMP would by default look for files in ~/work/somerandomname? rather than where you last worked with the GIMP?
A very good idea.

But take a step back and consider why does the GIMP or any other application need a 'File Open' dialogue box at all? Why does it need its own crippled little file manager duplicating the desktop's file manager? To open a file, it would be simpler to just open the directory using the ordinary file manager and then double-click the file or drag it onto the GIMP's icon in the panel.

In single-tasking environments of course an application needs its own filepicker. But why bother with it now? A list of recently opened files (or the directories containing them) would be a convenience. Otherwise, let each program do one thing well - use the file manager to navigate through files.

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 12:29 UTC (Thu) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link]

As for this particular use case, I just did:
1) rightclick on picture in Epiphany, select Save picture, save it somewhere
2) open GIMP
3) Choose File->Open
4) In file selector, just under Search there is "Recently used", click it
5) from few files shown, first is picture I just saved.

And this is on Fedora 8, not even the latest software. We already have solution for this problem, maybe it's not marketed enough?

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Oct 30, 2008 16:29 UTC (Thu) by kragil (guest, #34373) [Link]

In Debian Sid Gnome(without evolution):

Right Click Image in Iceweasel
> select copy mage
Open Gimp
>file > paste as new image
Edit
>file > Send as email

THAT would not be bad actually.

But the Gimp send as email dialog is _VERY_ rudimentary (in other words: worthless).

So
> Save
Open email client
> New email
Attach > find file in file dialog.

That workflow is pretty bad if you ask me.

What about a "present working directory" for Nautlius then?

Posted Nov 4, 2008 15:15 UTC (Tue) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

In my mind, the right workflow would be:

Open the mail application
Create a new message
Open the browser (Iceweasel or whatever)
position the mouse over the picture and drag it over the message window

Now, the right workflow for opening it with the GIMP:

Open the GIMP
drag the image over it

Or

right click the image, then select "open with" and then "Image editor (the GIMP)".

You don't need to save the image to disk at all.


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