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Orange Sombrero 9 Released - based on Fedora

From:  Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip-AT-kanarip.com>
To:  fedora-announce-list-AT-redhat.com, fedora-advisory-board <fedora-advisory-board-AT-redhat.com>, Development discussions related to Fedora <fedora-devel-list-AT-redhat.com>, fedora-legal-list-AT-redhat.com
Subject:  Orange Sombrero 9 Released - based on Fedora
Date:  Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:25:45 +0200
Message-ID:  <48D5A299.6000908@kanarip.com>

One more Software Freedom Day well spent ;-)

I'm proud to announce a new minor player in the world of insignificant 
clones of major, important Free and Open Source Linux Distributions,

      *bling*  Orange Sombrero - /based on Fedora/ *bling*

Orange Sombrero starts with releasing version number 9 - the same 
version number as the upstream distribution, Fedora, to avoid confusion.

Has anything been changed?

Yeah, a patch to anaconda[1,2] that didn't make it in in time for the 
Fedora 10 Beta freeze has been applied to compose this release -which is 
sort of the entire use case behind the patch anyway. Also, a different 
branch of Revisor has been used that uses the patch to anaconda[3].

Since I've got limited bandwidth and disk space, this is a 1 CD 
distribution. If I had bandwidth and disk space, I might have thrown in 
a mid-release Everything Spin but I couldn't. Also, given that this is a 
1 CD distribution, I've added an install class to anaconda so that it 
selects the correct groups of packages. Who needs "Office & 
Productivity" if there's only @core and @base, right? "Base System" FTW! 
It was fun, it took me 4 koji scratch builds of anaconda and another 
number of composes to get it "right".

Note that despite these changes the installed system will behave just 
the same as Fedora. In fact, if you look really hard, there's the 
occasional "Fedora" in there, still -maybe that's because I used 
fedora-release, which I should be able to do without trademark 
violations, even though /etc/fedora-release still says "Fedora" ;-)

Why bother?

Trademark guidelines right now say a derivative distribution cannot use 
"based on Fedora" -which is bad, and Orange Sombrero is now raising some 
red flags about it. Work is well on it's way to improve that 
situation[4] though, for which I thank everyone involved. I hope soon, 
very soon, derivative's of Fedora pop up everywhere, like mushrooms in 
autumn.

Where is it?

http://orangesombrero.org (torrents)

On behalf of the entire Orange Sombrero Community (e.g. ~1 person),

Kind regards,

Jeroen van Meeuwen
-kanarip

[1] http://tinyurl.com/49eq5n
[2] http://tinyurl.com/47v38s
[3] http://tinyurl.com/4le262
[4] http://tinyurl.com/6d3ykf

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Orange Sombrero 9 Released - based on Fedora

Posted Sep 23, 2008 23:57 UTC (Tue) by midol (guest, #25855) [Link]

derivative's??? bad editor! bad! bad! bad!

Orange Sombrero 9 Released - based on Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2008 0:32 UTC (Wed) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link]

No, bad original writer. Our editor was just quoting verbatim. It wouldn't have been amiss for her to insert "[sic]", but she should not be castigated for not doing so.

Orange Sombrero 9 Released - based on Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2008 0:46 UTC (Wed) by jamesh (guest, #1159) [Link]

Are you saying that you want LWN to edit emails it currently reproduces verbatim for spelling and grammar?

Orange Sombrero 9 Released - based on Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2008 7:01 UTC (Wed) by rvfh (guest, #31018) [Link]

It seems there has been a recent surge is such comments, attacking our beloved editors for something which is actually in quoted text.

Please guys, stop it.

The text in red is the original text, and most people expect it to be quoted verbatim, with spelling and grammar untouched.

Quoted text does not reflect the opinion of our editors, so no point attacking them for the quoted content either.

What does this mean?

Posted Sep 24, 2008 9:20 UTC (Wed) by dark (guest, #8483) [Link]

I feel like I've gotten one message from the middle of a flame war, and it'll only make sense if I go back up the thread for 100 messages to figure out the context. By which time I will have forgotten why I was reading it in the first place.

What does this mean?

Posted Sep 24, 2008 14:02 UTC (Wed) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

Someone appartently thinks that by naming their one-patch-away-from-Fedora distro in a
ridiculous fashion they will get Red Hat to change its trademark policies. Someone should point
him at Cheap Bytes and the Pink Tie Linux cd set that they distributed for years. CentOS just
claims to be similar to a "Popular North American distribution". Personally, I think would be
almost-Fedora and almost-RHEL distributors should just look to how brick and mortar retail
solved this problem decades ago. These kinds of trademard issues are nothing new, after all:

ValueQueen Linux (Compare to Fedora*)

* ValueQueen Linux is not distributed by Red Hat, Inc or its subsidiaries.

What does this mean?

Posted Sep 24, 2008 16:25 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

I cannot imagine any serious distro to be announced like that.


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