> These bastards decided to supplement vision and quality with marketing. > > Never touch with a six foot pole again. Heh, heh. A typical response to the keyword 'marketing'. Could you be an Eliza clone? Of course, a spade is a spade, which is an idiom meaning, "Call something what it is." There are no open source projects that are alive and kicking that do not do marketing. But if you'd rather dangle your fishing rod from behind the boat, go right ahead. I'll bite.
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