Thanks!

Thanks!

One thing about courtesy is when you ask something like "you fucking misogynic jerks, be more polite", you won't get what you want, not even as woman. Think before insulting!

The typical pattern I've seen in this discussion (from the rare woman who starts it) is a list of annoying things, where the fault is always on someone else, usually a group as large as possible ("society" or at least the whole "FOSS community"). Claims to support this alleged fault usually paint only half of the truth - e.g. one of those article mentioned that children visiting a hospital selected themselves for boys as doctors and girls as nurses, when the nurse in the hospital was actually a man, and the doctor was a woman. This ignores that more women study medicine than men, so the prejudices of children don't affect this profession at all. It's a good example that children believe far more in role models than when they are grown up.

Another pattern is that whenever someone brings up some statistics about mathematic skills (which they usually do when the question is "why are so few women in xxx"), the technically skilled women claim it's personally insulting her. No, we are not insulting, we are trying to find a reason. Another reason than "we are all misogynic jerks". And this math problem is not out of thin air - most of the girls I've met during my CS studies complained that the math they were forced to learn was too hard. A significant portion of the men complained, as well. But those people who still were in the computer pool at 8pm and hacked on stuff nobody ever told them to do (e.g. free software) didn't. Or they complained when a particular interesting math topic was removed from the lecture list. This is the part of the population who will do free software; we can forget about the others. They might do commercial software, where someone tells them what to do.