women, get into IT... or else
women, get into IT... or else
Posted Sep 30, 2007 4:50 UTC (Sun) by elanthis (guest, #6227)In reply to: women, get into IT... or else by tuxchick
Parent article: To Sir, with Love: How To Get More Women Involved in Open Source (O'ReillyNet)
When did I obstruct anything?
"why aren't you concerned with all of these OTHER Very Important Issues? Since you're not, that invalidates your position! yay I win!"
I din't say that, nor imply it, though I can see how you might read my sarcasm incorrectly. Note that I never said that there was an "important issue" at all. I wasn't implying that getting black people into IT was more important than getting women into IT - was implying that it's stupid to take one tiny little part of the "different groups of people in broad generality have different interests and goals" reality and rabidly attack it.
You realize that in order for a woman to be driven away from IT by discrimination, she'd have to ENTER the IT field in the first place, right? Or even take some classes, or _something_. I don't see that happening. A professor can't discriminate against a student not in his class. An employer can't discriminate against an applicant who doesn't apply for the job. A computer professional can't discriminate against an employee who doesn't work at his company.
I'm all different sorts of minority myself, based on my hobbies, likes and dislikes, and so on. I'm into a lot of stereotypically "feminine" things - but you don't see me trying to convert all my male friends over to it because I think it's totally politically incorrect for them not to be. Instead of trying to make my male friends learn an ounce of interior decoration or fashion sense, I ask the people I know who absolutely adore those things (hint: they're all women) when I need advice or want to go shopping.
I'm sure some dipshits are going to call that sexist, instead of recognizing a simple truth - for whatever reason, guys aren't generally into it, girls generally are, and I'm one of the oddballs who breaks the stereotype. It's not politically incorrect, it's just a part of life. There is far more that differentiates men and women besides their reproductive organs, and people who want to either eliminate those differences or try to ignore them are jackasses.
"Since I (willfully) don't see a problem, there aren't any!"
Way to add in something completely unfounded to make me seem like a bad guy. I "willfully" don't see anything, hmm? I am actively turning a blind eye to stuff that you for a fact know is happening all around me. By my inaction, I am an accomplice of evil, for sure.
It's wonderful how you feel a need to forcefully imply bullshit accusations about my motives in order to make your point seem more profound. Go ahead and call me misogynistic, prejudiced, and discriminating while you're at it. That will totally make you seem like the holy warrior and me the villain, and you'll totally win the argument.
I don't care what gender, race, or religion you are - the one type of person I will gladly discriminate against is stupid people. And now you can proudly claim that I am discriminating against you, dumbass.
