To Sir, with Love: How To Get More Women Involved in Open Source (O'ReillyNet) [LWN.net]

To Sir, with Love: How To Get More Women Involved in Open Source (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Sep 29, 2007 5:24 UTC (Sat) by xanni (subscriber, #361)
In reply to: To Sir, with Love: How To Get More Women Involved in Open Source (O'ReillyNet) by MisterIO
Parent article: To Sir, with Love: How To Get More Women Involved in Open Source (O'ReillyNet)

OK then:

Brain Size and Intelligence from Neuroscience, 2nd Edition, Dale Purves et al., ed.
Brain size does not predict general cognitive ability within families, PNAS Vol. 97, Issue 9, 4932-4937, April 25, 2000

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To Sir, with Love: How To Get More Women Involved in Open Source (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Sep 29, 2007 14:28 UTC (Sat) by MisterIO (guest, #36192) [Link] (5 responses)

Look,I've found at least 4 scientific studies published from 2006 to 2007 that say exactly what I said before,just do a google search and you'll find them.Anyway I really don't see the big problem.Companies want to make money,so when they search for a new IT professional,they search for a good IT professional.Who cares if that IT professional is a man or a woman?I've had a lot of female IT collegues and nobody has ever discriminated them.But I don't like the idea to treat female IT professionals as a species that needs to b protected.

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Posted Sep 29, 2007 22:05 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (3 responses)

Your google must be broken, or you would have found about the encephalization quotient pretty quickly. And the surrounding controversy, but at least you would be past "brain size to body mass", knowing that mice do better than people there.

I've had a lot of female IT collegues and nobody has ever discriminated them.

Nobody discriminates those small-brain female creatures, do they? Apart from considering them as inferior brainwise, we can trust corporate greediness to overcome those prejudices, right? Wow, that is really a recipe to fairness.

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Posted Sep 30, 2007 4:43 UTC (Sun) by MisterIO (guest, #36192) [Link] (1 responses)

There's a difference between discrimination as it is generally considered wrong,and a normal discrimination as you would mean simply to discern between 2 different things.If I say that men and women are different,I'm not discriminating.I would be discriminating if I had not given a job to a woman just because she's a woman.

I have some questions

Posted Sep 30, 2007 8:57 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link]

If you could enlighten me about a few issues: consider the following red herring.

I sure do not have any empirical proof of it,but it's certain that men's brain is generally bigger(not much but it is)than women's brain.Humans have more intelligence than animals because they have a bigger brain,why shouldn't this be true even between men and women?

Is it discrimination of the "good" kind, or of the "bad" kind? Does it inspire you to have no prejudices when you have to interview a woman? Do you think you are an isolated case in your company?

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Posted Sep 30, 2007 11:47 UTC (Sun) by stumbles (guest, #8796) [Link]

Interesting link, though it does not address those who suffer from osteo-encephalitis (inflammation of the brain due to a bone in the head). Which pretty much describes this thread.

Pointing out the he was a she (reminds me of the song Take a Walk on the Wild side or whatever it was) is about as useful as pointing out someones race, religion, etc. I frankly don't care.

This explains a mystery to me

Posted Oct 1, 2007 15:06 UTC (Mon) by utoddl (guest, #1232) [Link]

I've never been comfortable with Perl's use of '.' as a concatenation operator, but evidently it comes quite naturally to some people. Thanks for your post.