Re: I'm going out now. I may be some time.
| From: | Denis Vlasenko <vda.linux-AT-googlemail.com> | |
| To: | busybox-AT-busybox.net, Rob Landley <rob-AT-landley.net> | |
| Subject: | Re: I'm going out now. I may be some time. | |
| Date: | Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:45:08 +0200 |
On Saturday 30 September 2006 22:17, Rob Landley wrote: > Bruce [expletive delted] Perens sucked all the fun out of this project for me, > and at the moment I really don't want to work on it anymore. He may have > lost the licensing dispute, but he did manage to suck out all my enthusiasm > for working on any project he can take credit for. Fortunately, I am not going to pay attention to such silly distractions at all. All new code which I will commit to svn will be GPLv2 only. It's that simple. > I think this is long and rambling enough. Denis wanted to make sure I'd stay > subscribed to the list, so I will, but I'm not planning on posting much. Okay, I need to explain what I intend to do now. I believe that busybox now is mature enough to be almost usable on ordinary desktop machines. So I actually did that - replaced most of applicable /bin/* with links to busybox. I expect some fallout. I will try to fix it. Few examples: (1) Midnight Commander uses -v option when it calls g[un]zip. It is of course fixable in MC, but the goal is to make bbox usable on _unmodified_ desktop system! (2) od -t is used in bbox's own build system, but bbox od doesn't handle -t. (3) bbox build started to produce larger (+100k) executable from the same source tree and .config. Wow... Did not track down which applet affects this, and how... (1) and (2) are good examples of cases which do not matter for embedded world but are needed on desktop. Busybox should not lose its position of embedded device tool. I think it makes sense to introduce CONFIG_DESKTOP and put all such things under it. I will add such thing with gunzip -v fix. Non-DESKTOP bbox will silently ignore -v, DESKTOP one will print statistics. I know that increased attention to destop needs will inevibably lead to _some_ increases in size even for non DESKTOP case. Please think also about positive side: with such move there is a chance that bbox will get much wider userbase and therefore will bring some sanity into desktop world. Of course contributions and corrections (and even rants about bloat) from embedded people are still accepted and encouraged. P.S. below sig: the list of applets I added to /bin on my box. Need to check whether it will at least boot correctly now ;) -- vda ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/basename # exists: /bin/basename and /usr/bin/basename ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/bunzip2 # exists: /bin/bunzip2 and /usr/bin/bunzip2 ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/bzcat # exists: /bin/bzcat and /usr/bin/bzcat ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/cal # exists: /bin/cal ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/cat # exists: /bin/cat and /usr/bin/cat ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/chgrp # exists: /bin/chgrp and /usr/bin/chgrp ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/chmod # exists: /bin/chmod and /usr/bin/chmod ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/chown # exists: /bin/chown and /usr/bin/chown ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/chroot # exists: /bin/chroot and /usr/bin/chroot ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/cksum # exists: /bin/cksum and /usr/bin/cksum ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/cp # exists: /bin/cp and /usr/bin/cp ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/cut # exists: /bin/cut and /usr/bin/cut ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/date # exists: /bin/date and /usr/bin/date ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/dd # exists: /bin/dd and /usr/bin/dd ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/df # exists: /bin/df and /usr/bin/df ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/dirname # exists: /bin/dirname and /usr/bin/dirname ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/dmesg # exists: /bin/dmesg ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/du # exists: /bin/du and /usr/bin/du ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/echo # exists: /bin/echo and /usr/bin/echo ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/egrep # exists: /bin/egrep and /usr/bin/egrep ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/env # exists: /bin/env and /usr/bin/env ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/false # exists: /bin/false and /usr/bin/false ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/fdisk # exists: /bin/fdisk ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/fgrep # exists: /bin/fgrep and /usr/bin/fgrep ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/find # exists: /bin/find and /usr/bin/find ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/fold # exists: /bin/fold and /usr/bin/fold ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/free # exists: /bin/free ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/fuser # exists: /bin/fuser and /usr/bin/fuser ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/getopt # exists: /bin/getopt ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/grep # exists: /bin/grep and /usr/bin/grep ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/gunzip # exists: /bin/gunzip and /usr/bin/gunzip ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/gzip # exists: /bin/gzip and /usr/bin/gzip ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/head # exists: /bin/head and /usr/bin/head ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/hexdump # exists: /bin/hexdump ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/hostid # exists: /bin/hostid and /usr/bin/hostid ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/hostname # exists: /bin/hostname and /usr/bin/hostname ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/hwclock # exists: /bin/hwclock ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/id # exists: /bin/id and /usr/bin/id ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/insmod # exists: /bin/insmod ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/install # exists: /bin/install and /usr/bin/install ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ipcrm # exists: /bin/ipcrm ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ipcs # exists: /bin/ipcs ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/kill # exists: /bin/kill and /usr/bin/kill ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/killall # exists: /bin/killall and /usr/bin/killall ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/last # exists: /bin/last ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ln # exists: /bin/ln and /usr/bin/ln ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/logger # exists: /bin/logger ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/logname # exists: /bin/logname and /usr/bin/logname ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ls # exists: /bin/ls and /usr/bin/ls ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/lsmod # exists: /bin/lsmod ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/md5sum # exists: /bin/md5sum and /usr/bin/md5sum ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mesg # exists: /bin/mesg ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mkdir # exists: /bin/mkdir and /usr/bin/mkdir ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mkfifo # exists: /bin/mkfifo and /usr/bin/mkfifo ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mknod # exists: /bin/mknod and /usr/bin/mknod ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mkswap # exists: /bin/mkswap ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/modprobe # exists: /bin/modprobe ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/more # exists: /bin/more ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mount # exists: /bin/mount ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/mv # exists: /bin/mv and /usr/bin/mv ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/nc # exists: /bin/nc and /usr/bin/nc ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/nice # exists: /bin/nice and /usr/bin/nice ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/nohup # exists: /bin/nohup and /usr/bin/nohup ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/od # exists: /bin/od and /usr/bin/od ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ping # exists: /bin/ping and /usr/bin/ping ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ping6 # exists: /bin/ping6 and /usr/bin/ping6 ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/pivot_root # exists: /bin/pivot_root ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/printenv # exists: /bin/printenv and /usr/bin/printenv ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/printf # exists: /bin/printf and /usr/bin/printf ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/ps # exists: /bin/ps ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/pwd # exists: /bin/pwd and /usr/bin/pwd ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/readlink # exists: /bin/readlink and /usr/bin/readlink ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/readprofile # exists: /bin/readprofile ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/renice # exists: /bin/renice ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/rm # exists: /bin/rm and /usr/bin/rm ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/rmdir # exists: /bin/rmdir and /usr/bin/rmdir ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/rmmod # exists: /bin/rmmod ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/rpm # exists: /bin/rpm and /usr/bin/rpm ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sed # exists: /bin/sed and /usr/bin/sed ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/seq # exists: /bin/seq and /usr/bin/seq ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/setsid # exists: /bin/setsid ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sha1sum # exists: /bin/sha1sum and /usr/bin/sha1sum ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sleep # exists: /bin/sleep and /usr/bin/sleep ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sort # exists: /bin/sort and /usr/bin/sort ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/stat # exists: /bin/stat and /usr/bin/stat ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/stty # exists: /bin/stty and /usr/bin/stty ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/su # exists: /bin/su and /usr/bin/su ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sum # exists: /bin/sum and /usr/bin/sum ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/swapoff # exists: /bin/swapoff ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/swapon # exists: /bin/swapon ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sync # exists: /bin/sync and /usr/bin/sync ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/sysctl # exists: /bin/sysctl ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/tail # exists: /bin/tail and /usr/bin/tail ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/tar # exists: /bin/tar ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/tee # exists: /bin/tee and /usr/bin/tee ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/test # exists: /bin/test and /usr/bin/test ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/top # exists: /bin/top ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/touch # exists: /bin/touch and /usr/bin/touch ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/tr # exists: /bin/tr and /usr/bin/tr ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/true # exists: /bin/true and /usr/bin/true ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/tty # exists: /bin/tty and /usr/bin/tty ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/umount # exists: /bin/umount ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/uname # exists: /bin/uname and /usr/bin/uname ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/uniq # exists: /bin/uniq and /usr/bin/uniq ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/uptime # exists: /bin/uptime and /usr/bin/uptime ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/watch # exists: /bin/watch ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/wc # exists: /bin/wc and /usr/bin/wc ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/who # exists: /bin/who and /usr/bin/who ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/whoami # exists: /bin/whoami and /usr/bin/whoami ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/xargs # exists: /bin/xargs and /usr/bin/xargs ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/yes # exists: /bin/yes and /usr/bin/yes ln -sf /app/busybox-1.2.1.svn/busybox /bin/zcat # exists: /bin/zcat and /usr/bin/zcat
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