GPLv3 doesn't say that

Posted Sep 23, 2006 12:55 UTC (Sat) by Felix_the_Mac (guest, #32242)
In reply to: GPLv3 doesn't say that by coriordan
Parent article: Kernel developers' position on GPLv3

I said:"you may not use this software in a device which will not allow modified software to be run".

You said:"there is no use restriction."

Stallman said:"The basic change is that if someone, say the manufacturer of the Tivo, provides you a binary, then he must, as part of the requirement to provide the source code, give you whatever it takes to authorise your version so it will run."

Therefore the use restriction is that the manufacturer cannot use the GPL code in a device for which they are not willing to give you the signing key.

I support this position in principle, however if the practical effects are as suggested by the kernel developers in their letter, I do not believe that the risk to the GPL system is warranted.

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GPLv3 doesn't say that

Posted Sep 23, 2006 13:18 UTC (Sat) by coriordan (guest, #7544) [Link]

The condition/requirement/restriction is on distribution, not use. Any recipient of the software, including a device manufacturer, can use (as in, run, execute) the software without restriction. When they distribute (give a copy to someone else), they have requirements.

v2 said that requirements were to make the source code available, and to make the recipient aware of the licence. v3 adds to this list that there is also a requirement to make sure that if there are technical measures which might prohibit modification, then the recipient must have what is necessary to avoid being restricted by that.

This is why I say there is no use requirements. If you define "use" in a really broad way that includes distribution, then there are some relevent restrictions in v3, but this is also true of v2.

GPLv3 doesn't say that

Posted Sep 27, 2006 13:52 UTC (Wed) by bignose (subscriber, #40) [Link]

> the use restriction is that the manufacturer cannot use the GPL code in a
> device for which they are not willing to give you the signing key.

They can *use* the software in that device, unconditionally. They may also (under the terms of the current GPLv3 draft) *redistribute* that software to you, with the condition that they grant you all the freedoms to the software they received.

Once you receive that software under the terms of the GPLv3, you too are free to use the software in that device unconditionally, just as the party you received it from was free to do so.

No-one's use of the software is restricted by any conditions in the (current draft of the) GPLv3.