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Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

[Posted September 22, 2006 by corbet]

From:  James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-AT-SteelEye.com>
To:  linux-kernel <linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org>
Subject:  Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors
Date:  Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:44:41 -0500

These are basically just the votes and who voted.  There's also a nice
graphical tally but I'll attach that by replying to this message so it
doesn't get eaten by people's "no mime at all" spam filters.

James

-------------------------------------

Vote key:

   I wouldn't want to use v3 (I really dislike it, or my
   company would have serious problems allowing me
-3 to participate using the v3 draft)

-2 I think v3 is much worse than v2

-1 I think v2 is better, but I don't care that deeply

 0 I don't really care at all

 1 I think v3 is better, but I don't care that deeply

 2 I think v3 is much better than v2

   I wouldn't want to use v2 (I really dislike it, or my
   company would have serious problems allowing me
 3 to participate using the GPLv2)


These votes are opinions of the persons listed in their capacities as
kernel maintainers only. In no regard should any opinion expressed
herein be construed to represent the views of any entities employing
or being associated with any of the authors.

Name                                  Vote
====                                  ====
Linus Torvalds                        -2.5
Alan Cox                              -2.0
James Bottomley                       -3.0
Ingo Molnar                           -1.0
Tony Luck                             -2.0
Neil Brown                            -1.0
Al Viro                               -2.0
Jeff Garzik                           -2.0
Mauro Carvalho Chehab                 -2.0
Arjan van de Ven                      -3.0
David Woodhouse                       -2.0
Greg Kroah Hartman                    -3.0
Ralf Baechle                          -1.5
Stephen Hemminger                     -2.0
Andrew Morton                         -3.0
Dmitry Torokhov                       -2.0
Tejun Heo                             -2.0
Thomas Gleixner                       -3.0
Takashi Iwai                          -2.0
Trond Myklebust                       -2.5
Roland Dreier                         -2.0
Dave Jones                            -2.0
Russell King                          -2.0
John W. Linville                      -2.0
Andi Kleen                            -2.0
Patrick McHardy                       -1.0
David S. Miller                        0.0
Christoph Hellwig                     -2.0
Paul Mackerras                        -1.0


Total Votes Cast                       29
Average Vote                          -2.0  +/-   0.7
Lowest Vote                           -3.0
Highest Vote                           0.0
Median Vote                           -2.0


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Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 22, 2006 18:26 UTC (Fri) by proski (guest, #104) [Link]

I'm in the MAINTAINERS file and nobody asked me to vote (admittedly I'm not in the top tear). It's highly suspicious that all votes expect one have been negative. I would vote +2.

Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 22, 2006 20:43 UTC (Fri) by Los__D (guest, #15263) [Link] (2 responses)

Baaaaah, even the wording makes a natural bias, as the +3 isn't possible, since you wouldn't be a kernel developer if that was the case.

This is an absolutely worthless poll...

Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 23, 2006 0:56 UTC (Sat) by Ralf (guest, #40688) [Link]

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar ;-) It seems the vote key suffered a cut and paste accident in James' posting to linux-kernel. It was originally: 
        -3: I wouldn't want to use v3 (I really dislike it, or my company
            would have serious problems allowing me to participate using
            the v3 draft)

        -2: I think v3 is much worse than v2

        -1: I think v2 is better, but I don't care that deeply

         0: I don't really care at all

         1: I think v3 is better, but I don't care that deeply

         2: I think v3 is much better than v2

         3: I wouldn't want to use v2 (I really dislike it, or my company
            would have serious problems allowing me to participate using
            the GPLv2)

Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 23, 2006 2:21 UTC (Sat) by jstAusr (guest, #27224) [Link]

The vote is suprising to me, not Linus of course, but some of the others. I am no license expert but is seems to me that GPLv3 goes in the direction of insuring user freedom at the expense of some discomfort for companies by giving the users better access to the code. I thought most of the developers were interested in insuring freedom over dollars. So does this mean that most of the top kernel developers have no problem with Tivo? What about protection of the users privacy? Do they have an answer to the problems or don't they care?

Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 24, 2006 16:03 UTC (Sun) by accname (guest, #40717) [Link] (2 responses)

I highly doubt that the so-called "voting" was fairly performed.

If it was, I sincerely hope that GNU/Linux forks and forms a GPLv3 version.

Actually, and better yet, I'd rather assume that development move to
the GNU Hurd (and/or TUD:OS, DROPS, etc...)

If developers other than coporate-backed Linus support staying with GPLv2,
I have ABSOLUTELY_NO_PROBLEM moving my support for the BSD's.

Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 25, 2006 0:30 UTC (Mon) by jstAusr (guest, #27224) [Link]

The code that is GPLv2 only, can't be forked and used under GPLv3 without permission from the author of the code. If the developers of Linux are not willing to fight against spyware then a different kernel is probably in my future as well. The spyware is bad because the information that is gathered is quite often used in devious ways.

Results of an informal GPLv3 poll amongst kernel contributors

Posted Sep 28, 2006 14:42 UTC (Thu) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link]

If it was, I sincerely hope that GNU/Linux forks and forms a GPLv3 version.
I think you mean "Linux" in this context, since it is the kernel that you are referring to?


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