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Larry Sanger has good points, but some of his articles were a bit impenetrable

Larry Sanger has good points, but some of his articles were a bit impenetrable

Posted Sep 19, 2006 18:10 UTC (Tue) by emk (subscriber, #1128)
Parent article: WOS4: Quality management in free content

I've read a number of Larry Sanger's old Wikipedia articles on philosophy. While his articles contained a lot of good, expert level material, they also tended to read more like lecture notes from a graduate-level class than like encyclopedia articles. His writing style was informal, didactic, opinionated, and occasionally inaccessible to a lay reader.

In the right place, there is nothing wrong being informal, opinionated, or highly technical. (After, I'm frequently accused of these traits myself.) But Sanger's style perhaps wasn't the best fit for Wikipedia.

In my experience, Wikipedia isn't hostile to experts, per se. Like any open project, it favors certain personality traits, and requires some patience with trolls and the terminally confused.

Flawed Wikipedia articles generally have several causes:

a) Nobody has ever been interested enough to write a good article. This is an inevitable fact of life, especially for obscure topics.

b) The article has an infestation of "difficult" editors--this happens particularly on cultural "hot button" topics. Some difficult people aren't worth messing with unless you're prepared to go all the way to the Arbitration Committee, and that's a big pain.

c) The article has bit-rotted into oblivion, because nobody can be bothered to keep it fixed.

There's a few other pathologies which can produce well-written, competent articles with a lot of subtle errors. These generally occur when domain experts are scarce, or accurate sources are hard to find.


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Larry Sanger has good points, but some of his articles were a bit impenetrable

Posted Sep 21, 2006 14:10 UTC (Thu) by mchristensen (guest, #4955) [Link]

In Larry's defense many of these articles where ported wholesale to Wikipeia from old lecture notes. The intention was always to fix those articles, but intention isn't action, so that never got done.

Larry is a good guy, with interesting ideas, who could have been a great leader for Wikipedia, but turned out to be something else. Not everybody can be great at every job, so there's no shame in that.

With that said, I'm not particularly hopeful that he will turn out to be a great leader for this next project either.

I think it would be great to have a more reliable version of wikipedia, and I hope Larry will be successful. And I think it would be fantastic if credible educational institutions could get involved in improving the reliability of key areas of the Wikipedia.

I just don't think this project is designed correctly, or has the right leadership to make either of those things happen.


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