Questions for deployments of GNOME [LWN.net]

Questions for deployments of GNOME

Posted Jun 12, 2006 8:11 UTC (Mon) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750)
In reply to: Questions for deployments of GNOME by nix
Parent article: Questions for deployments of GNOME

I think the only truth here is that there are huge amounts of trolls and "IMHO the truth is like this":s around.

I used KDE for 6 years, then changed to GNOME. I've now stayed with it happily for 2,5 years. For me the reason is that with GNOME I actually worked more with the applications, not the desktop environment itself. Like is often said.

KDE is nice, too, and if KDE4 is cleaner / less cluttered, I could try it too...

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Questions for deployments of GNOME

Posted Jun 12, 2006 11:16 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (2 responses)

OK, I think I've had enough disproof: some people really don't like customizability.

(I'll bet you're all *vi* users too. ;} )

This is probably symptomatic of a fundamental division between big-ball-of-muddists and theoretical-cleanliness-and-damn-the-torpedoesists. (Both like clean underpinnings; they differ in the amount of stuff they're willing to tolerate piled atop those underpinnings.)

As the continued existence of Emacs/vi wars testifies, this division is unlikely ever to close, and I suppose it shouldn't be considered surprising that it's manifested in the GUI world as well.

Questions for deployments of GNOME

Posted Jun 12, 2006 20:32 UTC (Mon) by petegn (guest, #847) [Link] (1 responses)

> (I'll bet you're all *vi* users too. ;} )

Actually i think vi stinks reminds me too much of "edlin" piece of dross

give me "joe any day ..

Questions for deployments of GNOME

Posted Jun 12, 2006 22:40 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

How surprising that you're not aware of the ancestry of vi, despite its wide documentation in hard-to-find places like the vim documentation (hint, it's a new face on ex, derived from ed, of which edlin is a crude and braindamaged clone).

It is not even slightly surprising that vi is reminiscent of edlin. The difference is that vi is actually useful (even though I can't remember how to use it from moment to moment, demonstrably millions *can*.)