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Kernel bugs: out of control?

Kernel bugs: out of control?

Posted May 11, 2006 23:24 UTC (Thu) by malor (guest, #2973)
In reply to: Kernel bugs: out of control? by oak
Parent article: Kernel bugs: out of control?

I agree with you about forcing quality... that's a great idea. If I thought the new development process would actually DO that, I'd be enthusiastically behind it. Instead, it's just about speed, speed, speed... and avoiding the stuff that's no fun to do, like bugfixing and testing.

Waving your hands in the air and expecting other people to fix your programs is not, in my long experience supporting developers, the way to get it fixed, particularly not properly.

As far as switching OSes goes, I've already stopped using Linux on my firewalls because of the unending stream of security reboots. Netfilter is faster and more featureful than OpenBSD's pf, and its language is more amenable to shell scripting, but the first mission of a firewall is to stay up. I can throw OpenBSD on a firewall and not have to update it again for a couple of years. This means no downtime, which means happy users. I've never seen any Linux kernel that lasted that long without security holes.

FreeBSD is looking better all the time... I've been talking about switching over, but haven't yet. If matters continue as they have, maybe I will. And you'll have one less complaining user, which, from your tone, you may prefer.

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Kernel bugs: out of control?

Posted May 15, 2006 4:27 UTC (Mon) by ChristopheC (guest, #28570) [Link]

I think it is unfair to say the kernel developer do not test their patches. However, they can only test them on the few combinations of hardware they have access to.

To discover the bugs, the kernel needs wide-spread testing. But few people are willing to test the development releases (-rc) - the problem has been mentioned countless times on lkml and here on lwn. So they have to release often toge tthe needed coverage. (This is a somewhat simplified explanation, of course)

Kernel bugs: out of control?

Posted May 15, 2006 5:48 UTC (Mon) by malor (guest, #2973) [Link]

2.6.14 broke *traceroute*. Give me a break.

Kernel bugs: out of control?

Posted May 21, 2006 17:05 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Er, how often do you *run* traceroute? I don't run it so often myself that I'd notice immediately if it broke. It could easily be a week or so between runs...

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