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Why the ads?

Posted Apr 16, 2006 21:42 UTC (Sun) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510)
In reply to: Why the ads? by hppnq
Parent article: Open Source Parking

This is not about leadership, it is about decency. You are using them.

Did anyone from Apache say that? I doubt they think so, and I feel your sentiment is over the top.

What happens when you haul in a couple of grand and there is no and will not be a PAC?

Then would be an appropriate time to raise rabble. For you to assume that I'll behave this way, given my history in the community, is to say the least uncharitable.

You seem to feel I'm incapable of setting up Apache, too, and build a theoretical structure that IMO is far from what an average Free Software Developer (and Developers are the ones who need the help) would say, and then claim to be one of the people I represent while remaining anonymous.

Dave Cinege gave me an attack like this some years ago while I was taking care of Debian funds. As far as I'm aware, I eventually was able to show him I wasn't a bad guy. I can't think of anything that would change your opinion but time.

Bruce

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Posted Apr 16, 2006 22:33 UTC (Sun) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] (2 responses)

For you to assume that I'll behave this way, given my history in the community, is to say the least uncharitable.

Don't be so easily offended. I was trying to make some rather technical points and I think the ample opportunity you had to address them appropriately would excuse my rudeness, if you are inclined to take it that way. And I just want to know where the money goes, this is not the Spanish Inquisition. Obviously you have plenty of options, but you refuse to detail them. You are indeed completely open about the things you have already publicly stated.

You seem to feel I'm incapable of setting up Apache, too, and build a theoretical structure that IMO is far from what an average Free Software Developer (and Developers are the ones who need the help) would say, and then claim to be one of the people I represent while remaining anonymous.

My name is Buddy. There is nothing special about me. I choose the somewhat cryptic "hppnq" because my name is rather popular around where you live (I'm Dutch) and it looks nice when I turn my monitor upside down.

You are a self-proclaimed Open Source evangelist. I am a self-proclaimed Open Source convert. Surely you represent me.

I am very confident that you will manage to set up Apache. It is typical that you should worry about that, there's a pattern here. What I am worried about, and you know this perfectly well, is that you are just not going to do that.

I can't think of anything that would change your opinion but time.

Oh please.

Why the ads?

Posted Apr 17, 2006 0:10 UTC (Mon) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link] (1 responses)

OK, Buddy. I promise to report publicly on money. You can have my first report:

So far, there is no money and I am funding expenses out of my pocket. The only expense so far: I pay $200/month for a dedicated server running Debian and 2 terabytes/month of bandwidth, which supports Technocrat.net and various Open Source sites and has 24/7 supervision. So far OpenSourceParking is not more than 10% of that cost. The machine is not close to the bandwidth limit.

Ads are not running yet, only PSAs, as I feel it's important to build up the number of parked sites first. We need to get to 16 browser hits per minute around the clock to qualify for Adsense for Sites, although there are other venues and one company inquired about advertising directly.

Bruce

Why the ads?

Posted Apr 17, 2006 1:03 UTC (Mon) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link]

Not exactly what I asked for, and nothing new worth mentioning, but still appreciated. Let me pre-emptively add that, no, I don't just accept any answer, and yes, my joy is sincere.

This is beginning to sound like the Spanish Inquisition.

At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, and don't take this the wrong way: you are not seriously going to address the other issues any more, are you?