Install Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu -- then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Posted May 5, 2005 12:10 UTC (Thu) by dowdle (subscriber, #659)
Parent article: Testing Kubuntu 5.04

Don't get me wrong, Kubuntu is great... but it is so stripped down. And let's say you want both KDE and Gnome? Well, sure... you can use apt-get to grab whatever you want... but what packages exactly make up the default Gnome desktop on Ubuntu? I couldn't tell you. I can tell you an easy way to install all of Kubuntu's KDE stuff on Ubuntu... simply apt-get kubuntu-desktop... and luckily the Kubuntu website tells you howto do everything.

If you install Kubuntu, you don't get Firefox nor GIMP by default.

Reguarding the unofficial Ubuntu Guide, I'd have to give the FedoraFAQ folks some props too... they come pretty close to providing the same info about how to add all of the juicy mutlimedia apps to Fedora Core... basically just add a repository (DAG) or two to your yum.conf and away you go.

I've seen mention of a DVD iso of Ubuntu but so far, I haven't been able to find it. I know so many people like having only 1 install CD (less to initially download) but I prefer the bloated, multi-CD distros where I have less to download after the install (other than updates and adding the multimedia apps). Just think about it... download the CD set once... copy all you want. With a single CD install, download the install CD... and then on every machine you install on, you are downloading all of the additional stuff you want that wasn't part of the single CD. That's a lot of downloading. Yes, I know there are ways around that (make your own repository and carry it around on CD) but that takes some work.

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Install Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu -- then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Posted May 5, 2005 18:54 UTC (Thu) by busterb (subscriber, #560) [Link] (4 responses)

apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gives you the Gnome stuff.

Install Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu -- then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Posted May 5, 2005 18:59 UTC (Thu) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link] (3 responses)

Cool. I'm glad I brought it up... as an opportunity for someone to tell me how. I was thinking that it might be something like that but I didn't see it documented anywhere. Now I know.

I wonder which is a bigger package download, kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop?

Install Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu -- then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Posted May 6, 2005 22:11 UTC (Fri) by fergal (guest, #602) [Link] (2 responses)

Cool. I'm glad I brought it up... as an opportunity for someone to tell me how.

Another way to find out was to actually read the article before commenting :) Paragraph 4.

Install Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu -- then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Posted May 6, 2005 22:26 UTC (Fri) by dowdle (subscriber, #659) [Link] (1 responses)

Ok, I did read the article... but somehow I missed that detail. I wish I could say that the article was edited and that part added after I commented... but that would be a lie. In an attempt to throw off some of the embarrisment, I think there are more packages associated with Gnome than KDE so again, it still might be worth it for those who want both to download / install Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu. I mean, Kubuntu only has Konqueror for a browser. Now Konqueror is nice, but I want more...and I have to have GIMP too!

I have installed both and I can tell you that Kubuntu has so few applications... it's like there isn't much there... other than KDE... and a subset of KDE at that (no kdeedu, kdegames, etc). Compared to say Knoppix (where they use miraculous compression), it is skimpy.

I have to admit though, it is good to see both install disks available.

Install Ubuntu instead of Kubuntu -- then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

Posted May 6, 2005 22:38 UTC (Fri) by fergal (guest, #602) [Link]

Actually, that's a very good point. I've been thinking of install Ubuntu for a while but I use KDE. The separate Kubuntu disc sounded a big dodgy to me. It's good to know I can start from standard Ubuntu and add KDE.