Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 15:38 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] (3 responses) Oh fantastic. Yet another plugin format. As if the audio community didn't have enough between RTAS, VST, audio units, and DXI. Please [big name plugin author] won't you port your plugin to yet another format so I can use it on my Linux box? Can anyone here enlighten me to the need for another plugin format? In fact it seems like two new formats (LADSPA and DSSI). It looks like NIH syndrome to me. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 17:50 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] (2 responses) LADSPA has been around for years. It is the equivalen of VST in the Linux world. Due to some very cool work you can also use VSTs under WINE, or so I've heard anyway. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 18:53 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] (1 responses) > you can also use VSTs under WINE, or so I've heard anyway. The VSTs are accessible from Linux audio programs? Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 21:07 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] Yes, I believe it is bridged to LADSPA. Never tried it myself. Read about 'vstserver' to find out more. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 16:38 UTC (Mon) by midol (guest, #25855) [Link] (1 responses) Does this pdf mean that the proceedings of an audio conference are not available in......audio?? Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 3, 2005 6:39 UTC (Tue) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] Here is a link to a song that was played there: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Symmetries_LAC_2005_premie... Here is the soundfont (GPL/Artistic 2.0) used: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Linux/violin_sordino.tar.bz2 LAC was streamed live in vorbis/theora, some information here: http://lac.zkm.de/2005/ http://lac2005.zkm.de An excellent mailing list for people that want to get into more audio under linux: http://lwn.net/2001/0913/a/linux-audio-user.php3 This is more for people who are interested in making, mixing, mastering, performing, music, than, say figuring out xmms or how to make your desktop beep. This is a very interesting area of Linux that is under the radar of most people. Here is a recent LAD post: ------------------------ > Iain Duncan has been using the Linux version of > Csound for > performances lasting hours at a time, Ron Parker has > been employing > Ardour as the DAW of choice in his professional > studio (Mirror Image > Studios) for the past six months I recently stated that during the last six months Ardour has been the exclusive DAW for my audio production work. After thinking about it and reviewing my calendar I believe it's closer to 12 months. I began using and testing Ardour in 2001 and cut the first of a half dozen complete albums with it in 2002. I've produced a bunch of four to six song demos. It has been an eventful and often frustrating experience. Despite the state of reliability and my private emotional outbursts I never seriously considered giving up on using Linux Audio tools. Is Linux Audio for everyone? No. For anyone that's curious about what's under the hood of their tractor I can't believe anything compares. And thanks to some talented and relentless users and developers there's some very usable products. Not every producer, engineer or musician wants to know about or participate in building new solutions. , and many other > people on and off this > list are using Linux daily for the music creation > and production needs. --------------------- I wish I could post the links to dozens and dozens of songs and music produced with linux tools, but I havent saved the links;) Oh, but Google to the rescue: http://linuxaudioblog.jawebada.de/music?_start=21 I recommend going to the 'older entries' and checking out Parkers mp3dotcom song. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 23:38 UTC (Mon) by njhurst (guest, #6022) [Link] (3 responses) So does this mean that I'll be able to play music on xmms (not that xmms is an excellent music player, just the least sucky atm) and still be able to get application beeps? Even Windows 95 could do that. My el cheepo sound blaster card seems to provide 32 channels of sound mixing yet I still can't have system alerts and music! (And I don't want to have some temperamental daemon that only works properly with 4 applications, introduces a half second delay and stutters. We all just switched to using ALSA, lets not change again. :) While I'm grumping, programs should fade sound out smoothly when quitting mid-noise; there needs to be a better, standardised interface for selecting input/output/loopback devices within the program; standardised beep protocol so simple programs can make something other than pc beeps; and some nice alert sounds to play that are non-confrontational or abrasive. Yes, I'm aware that my complaints are not directly the fault of the sound crew, my point is that having a professional sound system is all very nice, but the reality is that average users still fight with the system, and people who try to use prepackaged systems like demudi still have to fight to record a basic stereo signal. There is a long way to go. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 3, 2005 17:45 UTC (Tue) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (2 responses) Your comment is right on target. There are some excellent sound programs on debian: ardour, Audacity or Gnome Wave Cleaner; I have nothing but gratitude for the developers. But for regular users it sucks: each process seems to think the sound card is its own property. aRts (or however it is written) sucks big time, it eats a lot of CPU and decides to die whenever it feels like it. esd is a very odd program. Wasn't ALSA supposed to be a big improvement? Well, if it doesn't even mix channels it looks like a bit 80ish. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 7:07 UTC (Wed) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] (1 responses) ALSA supports software mixing, if your card cant do it natively. Google for alsa and dmix. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 21:20 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] Wow, it worked, thanks a lot. Still, it shouldn't be this hard.
Posted May 2, 2005 15:38 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] (3 responses)
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 17:50 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] (2 responses) LADSPA has been around for years. It is the equivalen of VST in the Linux world. Due to some very cool work you can also use VSTs under WINE, or so I've heard anyway. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 18:53 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] (1 responses) > you can also use VSTs under WINE, or so I've heard anyway. The VSTs are accessible from Linux audio programs? Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 21:07 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] Yes, I believe it is bridged to LADSPA. Never tried it myself. Read about 'vstserver' to find out more.
Posted May 2, 2005 17:50 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] (2 responses)
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 18:53 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] (1 responses) > you can also use VSTs under WINE, or so I've heard anyway. The VSTs are accessible from Linux audio programs? Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 21:07 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] Yes, I believe it is bridged to LADSPA. Never tried it myself. Read about 'vstserver' to find out more.
Posted May 2, 2005 18:53 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] (1 responses)
The VSTs are accessible from Linux audio programs?
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 2, 2005 21:07 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link] Yes, I believe it is bridged to LADSPA. Never tried it myself. Read about 'vstserver' to find out more.
Posted May 2, 2005 21:07 UTC (Mon) by job (guest, #670) [Link]
Posted May 2, 2005 16:38 UTC (Mon) by midol (guest, #25855) [Link] (1 responses)
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 3, 2005 6:39 UTC (Tue) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] Here is a link to a song that was played there: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Symmetries_LAC_2005_premie... Here is the soundfont (GPL/Artistic 2.0) used: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/Linux/violin_sordino.tar.bz2 LAC was streamed live in vorbis/theora, some information here: http://lac.zkm.de/2005/ http://lac2005.zkm.de An excellent mailing list for people that want to get into more audio under linux: http://lwn.net/2001/0913/a/linux-audio-user.php3 This is more for people who are interested in making, mixing, mastering, performing, music, than, say figuring out xmms or how to make your desktop beep. This is a very interesting area of Linux that is under the radar of most people. Here is a recent LAD post: ------------------------ > Iain Duncan has been using the Linux version of > Csound for > performances lasting hours at a time, Ron Parker has > been employing > Ardour as the DAW of choice in his professional > studio (Mirror Image > Studios) for the past six months I recently stated that during the last six months Ardour has been the exclusive DAW for my audio production work. After thinking about it and reviewing my calendar I believe it's closer to 12 months. I began using and testing Ardour in 2001 and cut the first of a half dozen complete albums with it in 2002. I've produced a bunch of four to six song demos. It has been an eventful and often frustrating experience. Despite the state of reliability and my private emotional outbursts I never seriously considered giving up on using Linux Audio tools. Is Linux Audio for everyone? No. For anyone that's curious about what's under the hood of their tractor I can't believe anything compares. And thanks to some talented and relentless users and developers there's some very usable products. Not every producer, engineer or musician wants to know about or participate in building new solutions. , and many other > people on and off this > list are using Linux daily for the music creation > and production needs. --------------------- I wish I could post the links to dozens and dozens of songs and music produced with linux tools, but I havent saved the links;) Oh, but Google to the rescue: http://linuxaudioblog.jawebada.de/music?_start=21 I recommend going to the 'older entries' and checking out Parkers mp3dotcom song.
Posted May 3, 2005 6:39 UTC (Tue) by set (guest, #4788) [Link]
An excellent mailing list for people that want to get into more audio under linux:
http://lwn.net/2001/0913/a/linux-audio-user.php3 This is more for people who are interested in making, mixing, mastering, performing, music, than, say figuring out xmms or how to make your desktop beep.
This is a very interesting area of Linux that is under the radar of most people. Here is a recent LAD post: ------------------------ > Iain Duncan has been using the Linux version of > Csound for > performances lasting hours at a time, Ron Parker has > been employing > Ardour as the DAW of choice in his professional > studio (Mirror Image > Studios) for the past six months
I recently stated that during the last six months Ardour has been the exclusive DAW for my audio production work. After thinking about it and reviewing my calendar I believe it's closer to 12 months.
I began using and testing Ardour in 2001 and cut the first of a half dozen complete albums with it in 2002. I've produced a bunch of four to six song demos. It has been an eventful and often frustrating experience. Despite the state of reliability and my private emotional outbursts I never seriously considered giving up on using Linux Audio tools.
Is Linux Audio for everyone? No. For anyone that's curious about what's under the hood of their tractor I can't believe anything compares. And thanks to some talented and relentless users and developers there's some very usable products.
Not every producer, engineer or musician wants to know about or participate in building new solutions.
, and many other > people on and off this > list are using Linux daily for the music creation > and production needs. ---------------------
I wish I could post the links to dozens and dozens of songs and music produced with linux tools, but I havent saved the links;) Oh, but Google to the rescue:
http://linuxaudioblog.jawebada.de/music?_start=21
I recommend going to the 'older entries' and checking out Parkers mp3dotcom song.
Posted May 2, 2005 23:38 UTC (Mon) by njhurst (guest, #6022) [Link] (3 responses)
(And I don't want to have some temperamental daemon that only works properly with 4 applications, introduces a half second delay and stutters. We all just switched to using ALSA, lets not change again. :)
While I'm grumping, programs should fade sound out smoothly when quitting mid-noise; there needs to be a better, standardised interface for selecting input/output/loopback devices within the program; standardised beep protocol so simple programs can make something other than pc beeps; and some nice alert sounds to play that are non-confrontational or abrasive.
Yes, I'm aware that my complaints are not directly the fault of the sound crew, my point is that having a professional sound system is all very nice, but the reality is that average users still fight with the system, and people who try to use prepackaged systems like demudi still have to fight to record a basic stereo signal. There is a long way to go.
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 3, 2005 17:45 UTC (Tue) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (2 responses) Your comment is right on target. There are some excellent sound programs on debian: ardour, Audacity or Gnome Wave Cleaner; I have nothing but gratitude for the developers. But for regular users it sucks: each process seems to think the sound card is its own property. aRts (or however it is written) sucks big time, it eats a lot of CPU and decides to die whenever it feels like it. esd is a very odd program. Wasn't ALSA supposed to be a big improvement? Well, if it doesn't even mix channels it looks like a bit 80ish. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 7:07 UTC (Wed) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] (1 responses) ALSA supports software mixing, if your card cant do it natively. Google for alsa and dmix. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 21:20 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] Wow, it worked, thanks a lot. Still, it shouldn't be this hard.
Posted May 3, 2005 17:45 UTC (Tue) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (2 responses)
But for regular users it sucks: each process seems to think the sound card is its own property. aRts (or however it is written) sucks big time, it eats a lot of CPU and decides to die whenever it feels like it. esd is a very odd program. Wasn't ALSA supposed to be a big improvement? Well, if it doesn't even mix channels it looks like a bit 80ish.
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 7:07 UTC (Wed) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] (1 responses) ALSA supports software mixing, if your card cant do it natively. Google for alsa and dmix. Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 21:20 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] Wow, it worked, thanks a lot. Still, it shouldn't be this hard.
Posted May 4, 2005 7:07 UTC (Wed) by set (guest, #4788) [Link] (1 responses)
Proceedings of the 2005 Linux Audio Conference Posted May 4, 2005 21:20 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] Wow, it worked, thanks a lot. Still, it shouldn't be this hard.
Posted May 4, 2005 21:20 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link]
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