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Authorities have responsibilities too

Posted Aug 7, 2026 22:08 UTC (Fri) by alx.manpages (subscriber, #145117)
In reply to: Authorities have responsibilities too by NYKevin
Parent article: Changes in shadow-utils password-expiration features

> The shadow-utils project is not bound by Spanish law (or at least by this particular law), to my understanding. It's not as if CNI or the Spanish government contracted with shadow-utils to provide these features, or at least the article does not indicate such an arrangement.

To clarify, no such arrangement exists. The only reason I tried to contact CNI is because I'd like to help end these bad security policies in my country. Seeing that they ignored me, I feel I've done my part, and it's now their problem (and also of anyone who has to comply; luckily, I don't). Whoever is affected/more interested will have to deal with them.

> It would probably be more convenient for CNI and others if they voluntarily complied, but that has to be weighed against the needs of the shadow-utils project. It seems that shadow-utils would like to avoid the outcome where CNI or someone else has to fork the software, so I imagine that there will be ongoing attempts to start a dialog. But six months, just to get an initial reply, seems a bit unreasonable to me.

Yup, I was hoping for a voluntary cooperation.

The way we've done it is interesting:

They don't need to fork (at least, not immediately), because the expiration functionality that they require is still there. However, they certainly must react immediately, as we've broken some scripts provided by them to the users of their policies.

I expect several possibilities in the short term:

They may not notice for some time. This depends on how much time one of their users takes until they run the lastest version and use the scripts to set up password expiration policies.

Once they notice:

A). They review the policy, and drop password expiration entirely (hopefully);

or B). They remove the commands that now fail, since they're not strictly required by the policy, and otherwise keep the policy.


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Authorities have responsibilities too

Posted Aug 7, 2026 22:50 UTC (Fri) by alx.manpages (subscriber, #145117) [Link] (4 responses)

Funny thing:

I've followed the link we followed last time when we found the scripts that we broke. The link is now behind a login wall, so the scripts can't be read anymore.

This was the link: <https://www.ccn-cert.cni.es/es/guias-de-acceso-publico-cc...>

And here's the shadow-utils discussion where that link was mentioned: <https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/pull/1432#issuecom...>

I hope that at least, since they've most likely read my email and spent some time closing the scripts, that they'll also spend some effort in changing their policies.

Authorities have responsibilities too

Posted Aug 7, 2026 22:55 UTC (Fri) by alx.manpages (subscriber, #145117) [Link] (3 responses)

Even more funny: their policies are still public, but the scripts are closed ('Redes clasificadas'). The page says last change is from August 2026. It would be interesting if they closed it exactly today. :D

<https://www.ccn-cert.cni.es/es/guias.html>

Authorities have responsibilities too

Posted Aug 7, 2026 22:58 UTC (Fri) by alx.manpages (subscriber, #145117) [Link] (2 responses)

Oh no, they claim it's public, but when you try to read them, the policies are also closed behind a login wall. :(

Authorities have responsibilities too

Posted Aug 9, 2026 6:56 UTC (Sun) by bmork (subscriber, #88411) [Link] (1 responses)

> Oh no, they claim it's public, but when you try to read them, the policies are also closed behind a login wall. :(

Nice way to collect passwords:-)

Authorities have responsibilities too

Posted Aug 10, 2026 3:43 UTC (Mon) by willy (subscriber, #9762) [Link]

... but you have to change it every 90 days ...


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