Well thought out and sensible position overall [LWN.net]

Well thought out and sensible position overall

Posted Apr 28, 2026 11:08 UTC (Tue) by bluca (subscriber, #118303)
In reply to: Well thought out and sensible position overall by pizza
Parent article: The future of AI in Ubuntu

> No, they are not.

Yes, they are

> That's because this "weakening" only benefits the large-scale takers.

No, it benefits everyone. Models can be trained locally with open source software. Thanks to recent laws weakening copyright protection, absolutely everyone is legally allowed to train models on any publicly available dataset, no questions asked. This is an amazing development that furthers the goal of "information yearns to be free", and any self-respecting so-called "free software enthusiast" should be celebrating it day and night. Instead, they are being the MPA's useful idiots and clamoring for copyright maximalism.

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Well thought out and sensible position overall

Posted Apr 28, 2026 11:56 UTC (Tue) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (1 responses)

> Thanks to recent laws weakening copyright protection,

[citation needed] please?

Because IIUC no actual laws have changed; at best there were court cases that upheld already-existing law.

> Thanks to recent laws weakening copyright protection, absolutely everyone is legally allowed to train models on any publicly available dataset, no questions asked

The legal beef revolves around how one *obtains* the training material, not the use of said material for training. [1]

I personally hope Meta prevails here, because "I'm pirating <X> to train my personal AI" will completely eviscerate all copyright(+software) industry enforcement activities. Of course, that won't be allowed to stand, resulting in a veritable popcorn fest of dueling lobbyists, their captured legislators, and ever-more extravagant library+ballroom donations.

(Meanwhile, It's easy to say "information wants to be free" when you're not the one stuck with the hosting bill from everyone's "training" bots)

[1] https://torrentfreak.com/uploading-pirated-books-via-bitt...

Well thought out and sensible position overall

Posted Apr 28, 2026 12:04 UTC (Tue) by bluca (subscriber, #118303) [Link]

> [citation needed] please?

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2019/790/oj

which is then referenced by

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2024/1689/oj/eng

> The legal beef revolves around how one *obtains* the training material, not the use of said material for training.

Yes torrenting stuff was just plain stupid of them. The law of course requires that the source material is publicly available, if one has to break the law to obtain it, then no exception applies. We are not there yet - but every step in that direction, however small, is good progress.