Nice to see an update [LWN.net]

Nice to see an update

Posted Apr 7, 2026 11:06 UTC (Tue) by pizza (subscriber, #46)
In reply to: Nice to see an update by intelfx
Parent article: No kidding: Gentoo GNU/Hurd

> That's entirely unrelated to the choice of bus/interface.

Convenient, you cut out the directly-related first half of my reply.

> Sigh. If you argue, please argue *correctly*.

...Please follow your own advice before casting shade at others.

Meanwhile, are you seriously saying that "total solution cost" isn't a factor in bus/interface selection?

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Nice to see an update

Posted Apr 7, 2026 11:35 UTC (Tue) by intelfx (subscriber, #130118) [Link] (1 responses)

> Convenient, you cut out the directly-related first half of my reply.

Because it's not the one I want to respond to. That point is discussed in the other subthread. And yes, it is somewhat more expensive, by virtue of NVMe being a more capable interface. That's basic economy.

> Please follow your own advice before casting shade at others.

I'm not casting shade, I'm directly saying that (a part of) your argument is invalid.

> Meanwhile, are you seriously saying that "total solution cost" isn't a factor in bus/interface selection?

You argued for SAS against NVMe on the basis that "SAS drives" (which you implied to be HDDs) are cheaper and supposedly more reliable than "NVMe drives" (which you implied to be flash-based). Both implications are invalid to make in an argument about *bus interfaces*.

Your argument is akin to saying that because a Ferrari is more expensive than a tricycle (while you are content with the latter), three wheels are better than four.

Nice to see an update

Posted Apr 7, 2026 11:55 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> You argued for SAS against NVMe on the basis that "SAS drives" (which you implied to be HDDs) are cheaper and supposedly more reliable than "NVMe drives" (which you implied to be flash-based). Both implications are invalid to make in an argument about *bus interfaces*.

Not only invalid in a an argument over buses, but many many years ago, when somebody did a shoot-out over flash drives, I was left with the very strong impressions that flash drives outperformed rotating rust for reliability and longevity ... (okay, not the cheap bargain basement stuff). The only advantage rust has over flash, once you are paying for decent quality, is rust is a lot cheaper.

Cheers,
Wol