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Preferred form of modification

Preferred form of modification

Posted Mar 10, 2026 21:53 UTC (Tue) by excors (subscriber, #95769)
In reply to: Preferred form of modification by NYKevin
Parent article: Debian decides not to decide on AI-generated contributions

That seems no different to any other reproducible builds - you have to use largely the same compiler and compiler flags and hardware architecture etc. (And don't use -ffast-math in any case, because it's explicitly documented as producing incorrect output.)

I think the tricky part of non-determinism in LLMs is there's insufficient synchronisation in their parallel GPU code, so the order of some non-associative FP arithmetic depends on their dynamic load balancing and the GPU's non-deterministic thread scheduling. That's a deliberate tradeoff of performance against reproducibility, and they could choose to implement it the other way if they cared. (https://thinkingmachines.ai/blog/defeating-nondeterminism... has some plausible-sounding discussion of the changes needed to make it deterministic.)


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