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Restarting LibreOffice Online

LibreOffice online is a web-based version of the LibreOffice suite that can be hosted on anybody's infrastructure. This project was put into stasis back in 2022, a move marked by some tension with Collabora, a major LibreOffice developer that has its own online offering. Now, the Document Foundation has announced a new effort to breathe life into this project.

We plan to reopen the repository for LibreOffice Online at The Document Foundation for contributions, but provide warnings about the state of the repository until TDF's team agrees that it's safe and usable – while at the same time encourage the community to join in with code, technologies and other contributions that can be used to move forward.

Meanwhile, this post from Michael Meeks suggests that the tension around online versions of LibreOffice has not abated.


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Genealogy of the open-source office suites

Posted Feb 25, 2026 9:06 UTC (Wed) by sdalley (subscriber, #18550) [Link]

I found this useful-looking version diagram of where the various versions came from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collabora_Online#/media/Fil... . It appears that
* COOL incorporates recent changes to LibreOffice Desktop
* Patches also flow the opposite way from COOL to LOD.
Sounds like it is, or ought to be, a friendly arrangement of mutual benefit to both projects.

Conspicuous by its absence is any mention of LibreOffice Online, presumably because LOOL was mothballed. Still, would be interesting to see what version(s) it was branched from. And given that the Document Foundation would also presumably be cross-fertilizing patches between its own desktop and on-line version, is it permitted to wonder if this will result in needless duplication of effort?

Viability

Posted Feb 25, 2026 17:21 UTC (Wed) by DOT (subscriber, #58786) [Link] (10 responses)

If I understand correctly, the main tension point seems to be that Collabora does the majority of the work on the general LibreOffice codebase, in the hope that end users will use their variant (Collabora Office), but most people actually use plain LibreOffice.

They should be able to make money off of support for Collabora Office, and for a hosted Online variant, but that revenue stream is hard to build if the brand awareness is all with LibreOffice. If LibreOffice releases an Online variant that is substantially the same as Collabora Online, nobody* will switch to Collabora's variant.

* Nobody, except for businesses that want support. Although, if you think "open source O365 alternative", you think about Nextcloud before Collabora. Maybe Collabora and NextCloud should partner up? In the end, a document collaboration platform is only one part of a larger ecosystem. But then, Collabora+Nextcloud is incomplete as well, most notably missing an email service.

Viability

Posted Feb 25, 2026 22:06 UTC (Wed) by bearstech (subscriber, #160755) [Link]

It seems that's what they already do : "Nextcloud Office is built together with Collabora Productivity." (https://nextcloud.com/office/)

Building a strong brand ...

Posted Feb 25, 2026 22:06 UTC (Wed) by mmeeks (subscriber, #56090) [Link] (5 responses)

Thanks for your cogent summary!

Let me add some more background. There is a nice FAQ on the move five years ago (also great LWN coverage) whereby all of the LOOL code contributors moved to COOL.

Why? - well for some years I spent a lot of time trying to explain the issues of vendor neutral marketing, talks at conferences, repetition. However in the end I had to conclude they prefer not to tell donors about contributors (in any way that works at least) and cf. the FAQ COOL became its own project.

For example around half the wiki feature list in LibreOffice 26.2 came from Collabora, but no mention in the release announcement - instead we have an extraordinary quote about LibreOffice 26.2 shows what happens when software is built around users, not business models, ... from Florian - built on his experience of zero core code commits. Sadly we have only one developer left on TDF's rump board - which I guess tends to lead to extraordinarily silly decisions like this being taken.

Luckily the coding part is still super fun, even if the politics increasingly feels like it is following an illiberal democracy's playbook. Collabora Online & Office welcome interested developers, and I distract myself with trying to communicate community, software & business topics through the medium of comics: The Open Road To Freedom which might be an amusing read for some.

Building a strong brand ...

Posted Feb 27, 2026 5:42 UTC (Fri) by burki99 (subscriber, #17149) [Link] (4 responses)

They give credit, naming the companies in a clear contribution chart and slightly fuzzier in text, in the follow up patch release:

A significant share of the fixes in LibreOffice 26.2.1 originates from the companies that form the LibreOffice ecosystem. These organisations employ experienced developers who contribute code upstream, ensuring that improvements benefit the entire LibreOffice user base — whether they run the community build or a vendor-supported distribution.

The Document Foundation thanks all ecosystem partners for their sustained investment in the health and quality of the shared codebase.

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/02/26/tdf-r...

Building a strong brand ...

Posted Feb 27, 2026 11:08 UTC (Fri) by mmeeks (subscriber, #56090) [Link] (3 responses)

Great, it's encouraging that under pressure they do the right thing this once (for a minor release). However - is it ultimately effective? As has been said TDF is not and should not be a marketing arm of any company - they have put links on their website before but I'm not convinced they can ever be really effective. The what is 0.05% picture in the "TDF marketing in practice" section of my write-up of years ago - suggests that. We already know that this model doesn't work for the ecosystem - it has been tried, measured and documented as failing over many years.

Worse than this - scandalously we have seen TDF try to play king-makers in the past, ordering and sorting lists of contributors and giving top billing to competing companies who contribute next-to-nothing, while down-ranking those who did the actual work. To make any convincing commitment to future good behavior, there is a desperate need to build confidence in TDF's governance which seems to be near collapse. MC elections overturned after they were run, an illegitimate rump board whose term has expired, with no date for overdue elections to start, with several of the top ranked directors having resigned, a board ramming through radical changes in bylaws non-consensually and with no sensible drafting process, publishing inflated accusations of CoI (ironically by those who should really introspect themselves). There is a massive bonfire of goodwill there, perhaps TDF will recover - but who can say.

Clearly the best, and easiest approach here is for the work that Collabora has done creating (almost by itself) Collabora Online - to be branded in a way that reflects that contribution ie. as COOL, and not by forking that to pass it off under the LibreOffice Online brand. That of course is/was the status quo before this action. Their chart shows that some huge chunk of the investment needed to make the LibreOffice desktop brand a success also comes from Collabora - why trample that goodwill ?

So - too-little, too-late, too-uncertain, doing somewhat better just this once and sufficiently weak that it seems deeply unlikely to fuel the virtuous cycle of relevance and re-investment necessary to rocket-power FLOSS Office when done like this.

For those that like comic relief, I like to escape to another world where there is a fun fair with a road to it.

Building a strong brand ...

Posted Feb 27, 2026 11:33 UTC (Fri) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (2 responses)

> giving top billing to competing companies who contribute next-to-nothing,

Why would they do that? Baffling... unless there's some other consideration somewhere for someone/something?

Building a strong brand ...

Posted Feb 27, 2026 11:50 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Sounds like they're falling into the same pit Apache Open Office fell into.

I guess they haven't learnt the first rule of "how to earn credit", namely the more eagerly you give credit where it's due, the more of that credit flows back to you! Much as I don't like be singled out, it is nice, and as the "grizzled greybeard" at work, I do my best to encourage the youngsters. Both publicly and in private.

DON'T try and claim credit that's not yours. People see through it ...

Cheers,
Wol

Building a strong brand ...

Posted Feb 27, 2026 12:26 UTC (Fri) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link]

Part of the problem is that a chunk of the people who stand for election etc at TDF are working for companies that compete with Collabora, but who contribute by providing time to spend on TDF committees etc, rather than working on LibreOffice itself. Those people then push for their companies to have top billing in TDF press releases about LibreOffice.

Viability

Posted Feb 26, 2026 22:28 UTC (Thu) by Trelane (subscriber, #56877) [Link] (2 responses)

I tried to buy a copy of Collabora, but I was too small (it was for my family.) They directed me to someone else instead.

Viability

Posted Feb 27, 2026 12:24 UTC (Fri) by CPM7g (guest, #143784) [Link] (1 responses)

That's because they work with many partners that integrate Collabora Online into their platforms and products.

There are lots of hosting and file & sync providers that you can use; all listed on the partners page here: https://www.collaboraonline.com/partners.

Alternatively, you can self-host using Collabora Online Development Edition (CODE) for free, which is the development edition and has community support only. You can find more info here:
https://www.collaboraonline.com/code/

Viability

Posted Feb 28, 2026 4:15 UTC (Sat) by Trelane (subscriber, #56877) [Link]

Sure. I think I eventually went with Univention.

It's really confusing. I know and trust Collabora. I've no idea who the others are, or what they do.

And all I really want to do is throw some money at a firm to help pay for LO development.


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