The elephant in the room with GTK2.

Posted Feb 7, 2026 15:38 UTC (Sat) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: The elephant in the room with GTK2. by athenian200
Parent article: Debian discusses removing GTK 2 for forky

> and if anything are alienating to those users because they are designed primarily around touchscreen-centric use cases, and possibly the UI expectations of users who grew up with Android and iOS before they ever touched a standard x86-64 PC.

Forget pizza's comment about how GTK2/3/4 weren't primarily designed for touchscreens but ...

Quick question - how do you force shutdown a modern laptop?

My first laptops had two catches underneath - release the catches and the battery fell off!

Then I discovered that, for newer laptops, you had to press and keep the power button down, and after about 5 seconds it would "clonk" off.

Now, when I try that on my - old fashioned screen - work-supplied Dell laptop, I get a big screen that says "pull down here to power off" - on a non-touch screen !?!?!?

Okay, yes I know you simply keep the power button pressed even longer, but seriously? If you're trying to force the laptop off because it's wedged, why do you have that stupid "pull down" screen in the first place !?!?!?

Cheers,
Wol