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How to join the meeting?
https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensu...
https://meet.opensuse.org/meeting
All meeting minutes can be found here:
https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting
## Attendees: lkocman,jimedrand,foursixnine,ana, Sarah, dimstar,
marcus, bittin, rfrohl, GuillaumeG, maxlin, ddemaio
## openSUSE Tumbleweed (ana)
openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 10 failed 27 unresolvable (last
week: 10 failed 7 unresolvable)
~533 requests accepted in the last three weeks (data source:
https://build.opensuse.org/projects/openSUSE:Factory/pulse)
Latest TW update from 13 January, blocked by:
postfix https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1256462 (testing fix
https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/1328436 )
Coming soon:
Linux Kernel 6.18.6
Linux Kernel Longterm 6.12.66
postfix 3.10.7
shadow 4.19.2
util-linux 2.41.2
Plasma 6.5.5
php8 8.4.17
glew 2.3.0
sssd 2.12.0
libpng16 1.6.54
libvirt 12.0.0
nghttp3 1.14.0
ngtcp2 1.19.0
nodejs24 24.13.0
Mozilla Firefox 147.0
ruby 4.0.1
on-going:
removal of ruby 3.4 DONE
dropping lua51: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1252922
(opendkim fixed, a few games needing attention: crawl, hedgewars,
love-0_7_2)
python3.14: build modules (and remove modules for python 3.12):
tracker https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254826
many python packages failing to build that needs to be update before
rebuild on going in
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/openSUSE:Factory:...
No News:
run0-wrapper, available as an optional sudo replacement:
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256515 to figure out why
libsolv favors run0-wrappers over the actual pkexec/sudo
implementation
openSSL 3.6.0 update: POSTPONED, still waiting for upstream
likely upstream issue https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/28902
lkocman: we were asking what would it take to do a vendor-patch-less /
vanilla openSSL in openSUSE by openSSL. Discussion started.
systemd 258.2, was accepted in Factory and reverted back to 257.9,
needs work in tests. (POSTPONED)
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1255665
transactional-update switching on soft-reboot (depends on systemd 258)
## Guillaume - Arm
Tumbleweed:
* Blocked (same reason as x86_64 above)
* Moved GCS workaround (-Wl,-z,gcs-report-dynamic=none) from
%optflags to %build_ldflags this morning. Please raise any build issue
related to this update.
ARMv9 project: (Rebuild of Tumbleweed rings 0+1 packages + few others)
* Wiki page: https://en.opensuse.org/Armv9_project
* WIP:
- Fix packages built without PAC/BTI/GCS flags
- Use :ToTest sub-project to setup a proper test-and-release
workflow with OBS and openQA
## Sarah - s390x
* Tumbleweed:
* blocked by perf: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254891
DimStar: Do we need to block the snapshot on that? How important
is that feature to the s390x community?
-> works not directly on an LPAR as expected (Maintainer from SUSE
does not respond)
Question: How should we go forward? Community has got only VMs available.
* ghc is failing because a llvm dependency < 16: Forwarded to IBM
via Linux Distributions Working Group
* Leap:
* tests are failing more and continuously
@Santiago: s390x need also hearts (equally to arm): When do we
receive a working test infrastructure?
https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/188931
* onnx: not buildable because Python configuration for nanobind
can not be found (valid also for Debian nad Fedora)
-> https://github.com/onnx/onnx/issues/7526
* Escalations regarding SUSE Package Hub (SLES/Leap) at GNUCobol and gcc gCobol:
1) Outdated gnu-cobol package in SUSE Package Hub for SLES 16 and
with old name
SR: https://build.opensuse.org/requests/1328052 (OBS Admin
required for changing repo name)
Question: Can ge get a package with so many updates to Leap/SLES 16?
lkocman: I can open jira for this. I suppose cobol is in SLES.
2) We have no gCobol in gcc until now
FOSDEM: The GNUCobol Project Lead and one gCobol Maintainer for
gcc want to have a meeting at FOSDEM, how we can collaborate better
and improve Cobol on Linux in general.
## Leap
Cloud images for 16.0 are in progress by SUSE Public Cloud team.
Please be patient.
A public retrospective review / bring your lunch today at 1:30pm CET
https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/opensu...
Resumed feature request review meeting
https://calendar.opensuse.org/teams/release/events/featur...
Related "confusion" with new package requests. So far it used to be
https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features
While official internal docs now point to
https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-admin
I think we need to clarify which is the case and not introduce new
temp. workflows :)
maintainers.json - I am not sure if duplicating list of package
maintainers from devel project in Leap, Factory, Package Hub etc is a
good idea. I am bit afraid of drifting of the ownership over time.
Extreme case is membership DB. Seems like the current pipeline always
takes it from the devel project (single source of truth). I had
originally the impression that it was owner in respective project but
that was not the case.
Max: in the past our script openned review against package in
devproject, so project maintainer had a chance to review the package
if package maintainer is not available. The review was done against a
package in devproject, and now it might not be a perfect solution to
do it against a specific person - package maintainer.
Migration: people are still hitting the SELinux migration issue with
opensuse-migration-tool. the selinux post script needs to be
revisited.
Based on
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.op...
, Bernhard re-raised further 32bit enablement for Steam due to VR
which is not available via flatpak (there are other features such as
additional storage etc). I'm myself a gamer too, but I don't really
see these as dealbreaker for many. Bernhard started
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/games:tools:steam to get as
many fixes integrated into the main distribution as feasible. E.g. we
could build SDL3 for i586 in openSUSE:Backports:16.0 so that it is
generally available and can be dropped from the extra repo.
We have a successfully build of Leap 16.1 medium and ftp-tree. All
needed pipeline is up on botmaster. The last problem is the
`releasing`, releasing product package from
openSUSE:Leap:16.1:Products to openSUSE:Leap:16.1:ToTest worked
_except_ 000productcompose(ftp build). 000productcompose.dvd works
fine
lkocman: buildops issue?
https://gitlab.suse.de/buildops/release-support/-/issues
Discussion about how to get KDE Plasma 6.5 (+200 packages) through our
git workflow to Leap 16.0+16.1. The only larger set seems to be
Haskell with ~400 packages. Antonello and Marcela are talking to
Fabian + Antonio about how to make that happen. We need to come up
with a good way that can be adopted by others.
## Maintenance (Marcus, Robert)
Working on updates, nothing special to report.
ffmpeg related prjconf change incoming
Robert: Was there progress with the ToTest manager issues from last week?
Marcus: It seems to be working this week. So let's keep fingers crossed.
## Project Enablement (Doug)
* Published oSC CfP article
* Published Y2K38 article
* Leap 16 retrospective today at 12:30 UTC (13:30 CET) -
https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.op...
* GSoC Application Submitted
* Interested mentors, add your project to
https://github.com/openSUSE/mentoring/issues and email
ddemaio@opensuse.org to add to GSoC mentoring community
* 6 projects listed
* SUSECON
* No update
* Open Developers Summit 2026
* 27 Registration, 20 Submissions
* April 23 (CfP ends Feb. 14)
* openSUSE America Summit
* 5 Registration, 6 Submissions
* April 30 - May 1 (CfP ends March 1)
* openSUSE Conference (at Z-Bau from June 25-27)
* 6 Registration, 4 Submissions
* CfP and registration open
* CfP ends April 30
* Waiting on contract
* FOSDEM (31.01.26 - 01.02.26)
* Discussion scheduled with Fedora members at FOSDEM to find areas to
try and align timing, sponsor pricing, etc
* Stand Location H-09-openSUSE Project
* Contact ddemaio@opensuse.org to sign up for bus to/from NUE to Brussels
* Problems with train strike:
https://fosdem.org/2026/news/2026-01-11-travel-transporta...
might happen (for people visiting and taking the train)
* Open Source Summit happening in Oct 2026 Prague in parallel with
openSSL conference. We're talking to SUSE Community team + Field
Marketing about openSUSE presence at the booth.
* Supporting TSP requests
* Asked Geeko Foundation for invoice
* IndiaFOSS
* Trying to coordinate a team to possibly have a booth
* Designing posters for CLT booth
## Adrian - OBS
not available
## Bernhard - Slowroll
Not rolling without Tumbleweed updates
Found out how to add symlink for iso
## Bernhard - reproducible builds
Pushing more r-b fixes into 16.0 (python-numpy, clamav,
elemental-toolkit, gstreamer-plugins-rs, rage-encryption) +
investigating open problems (erlang, java-25-openjdk)
## Adam - Git Workflow
* syncing git-packages that are in git but are not in git projects. We
have about 500 factory packages like this with outdated /pool branches
## Santiago - openQA
- Looking at running agama on s390 for leap and TW
(https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/188931#note-25)
- Mostly fixing small issues with journal check
- Maintenance seems to be ok now, still old PRs need some love
Open question: Did anybody create the issue for the problems with the
obs-sync/ttm?
lkocman: will do after meet
## Open Floor
Jim : I am now maintaining the packages at Emulator:Waydroid and
theres one modules packages with System/Kernel for binder module and 4
remaining are related to Waydroid packages (lbgbinder1, libglibutil1,
python-gbinder, and waydroid). How I can submit the packages into
Factory ? I need help.
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Development_Process
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:How_to_contribute_to_Fac...
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:How_to_contribute_to_Fac...