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Posted Jan 16, 2026 5:16 UTC (Fri) by wtarreau (subscriber, #51152)
In reply to: Forwarding services by daroc
Parent article: A note for MXroute users

I suspect that some e-mail companies are intentionally extremely strict with non-subscribers in order to make it a pain to run our own services and encourage us to migrate to their services once getting bored of problems. How many people moved to gmail just to avoid problems with gmail recipients ? But that's just blackmailing, we shouldn't give up.

I'm also noticing that the amount of spam has significantly decreased over the last decade, probably because non-tech people (the main targets) use e-mail much less these days, making spam a less efficient way of reaching victims than it used to be. So maybe we'll reach a balance where overzealous filtering will be relaxed a bit and impact less self-hosted platforms.

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Posted Jan 16, 2026 8:50 UTC (Fri) by geert (subscriber, #98403) [Link] (1 responses)

The amount of spam may[*] have gone down, but it has changed from rather silly thus harmless advertisements about body and stamina improvements to urgent and more real looking requests to click here to fix your email/bank/company/medical/delivery/...

[*] Hard to see if Gmail drops some spam instead of delivering it in my spam folder.

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Posted Jan 17, 2026 12:44 UTC (Sat) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]

...which is made easier by MUA that do not display the actual email address of the sender.

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Posted Jan 16, 2026 11:45 UTC (Fri) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link] (1 responses)

It’s just a lot better targeted, on one side towards naïve users that leave their contact information on shady websites, on the other side towards companies that run not-real-smtp exchange (it’s a lot easier to spam people that use a product that hides by default the smtp headers that would allow filtering spam, because the company PR teams are spamming internal users in the first place and are afraid those users would use filtering to /dev/null their newsletters).

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Posted Jan 16, 2026 13:15 UTC (Fri) by wtarreau (subscriber, #51152) [Link]

I totally agree with both of you!