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Is the contract restricted to the buyers, or to the "any 3rd party" of the GPL?

Is the contract restricted to the buyers, or to the "any 3rd party" of the GPL?

Posted Jan 12, 2026 14:43 UTC (Mon) by SLi (subscriber, #53131)
In reply to: Is the contract restricted to the buyers, or to the "any 3rd party" of the GPL? by pizza
Parent article: SFC v. VIZIO: who can enforce the GPL?

[I realized after writing my original message here that most of the stuff I wrote about had been further elaborated by excellent LWN articles since then. I should strive to lag less in my news reading. :-)]

> Most legal texts have been extended to cover stuff far beyond what existed when they were first written. Classic example being the US Constitution's bill of rights.

I don't know if "most" is fair, but sure, this happens. Still, a court probably is going to have some doubts reading a legal text in a way that would have been incomprehensible when it was written (except for the Constitution, but I think that is a an example of a nation deciding that something written by humans is holy scripture and then scrambling to fix the damage by creative reading).

> > But I don't think it's hard to find FSF quotes saying "only the copyright owners can sue" from the relevant times, and that's quite relevant for the intent of the parties when conducting the transaction.

> Except the FSF isn't a party to this agreement either. :) If you're going to get into their _intent_ then it's going to be more broadly encompassing than what the _actual_ GPLv2 text allows. Hence the v3 "bugfixes".

Right, but, that makes it far from irrelevant. It cannot be denied that FSF has been a significant force in *how the document was understood* even in the subsequent years. And that *is* relevant when we look at what the kernel devs would have understood it to mean and what Vizio would have understood it to mean.

From a court's point of view, if the drafter of the license, which was one the most pro-free-software entities in existence and certainly a major influence in how it was understood, said in public that only the copyright owner can sue to redress GPL noncompliance, it genuinely does make it less plausible to argue that those who adopted the license likely understood it to give wider enforcement rights.

Now, in the Vizio case, the trial is happening at least in part precisely *because* of a question over FSF's intent. Here's some text from a tentative ruling from December 4:

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>> Plaintiff alleges the plain language of the GPLs provides that Plaintiff and other purchase of Defendant’s smart TVs are intended third-party beneficiaries of the GPLs. [...] In [26 March 2024 minute] order, the Court found Defendant had presented evidence that FSF “did not intend for third parties [including Plaintiff] to enforce the rights under the license agreement,” creating a triable issue as to the parties’ intent.

[... the court goes to reject Plaintiff's request for summary adjudication for procedural reasons, but offers this alternative grounds:]

>> Plaintiff has not demonstrated that the new evidence disposes of the factual disputes which caused the Court to deny its prior motion. Even if the Court considers the new evidence, including declarations of Ms. Kooyman and Mr. Kuhn, the new evidence does not negate the triable issues created by conflicting prior statements by the FSF which the Court previously found were sufficient to demonstrate a triable issue.

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> Meanwhile, as you mentioned earlier, case law (if not actual statue) develops over subsequent years, and can easily result in outcomes that differ from the intent of any of the [un] involved parties.

Yes, but here we have to separate two different things: The agreement's intent and the law that constrains things like what you can actually enforce. The courts will look for the intent. The mechanisms they allow themselves differ a bit by jurisdiction, but no court will read a contract from 1950 saying "The Vendor shall retain exclusive rights to all kernels produced by the operation", to apply to OS kernels in 2026. Courts that rely on plain meaning rely on plain meaning at the time of the writing.

So I believe courts would separate the question into two parts:

1. What was the intent of the parties? Depending on jurisdiction, you only look at the text and only if it's ambiguous consider other evidence; or, I think in California, you allow external evidence even for the proposition that "ok, this is what it facially means, but I can show that it's not how the parties meant it". But the courts will try to get as close as they can to how it would have been read at the time.
2. Now, treat that agreement as an abstract blob of intent, separated from the text. Apply the law to an agreement with that intent. Applying 2026 law may give a different result from applying 1950 law.


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Is the contract restricted to the buyers, or to the "any 3rd party" of the GPL?

Posted Jan 12, 2026 15:27 UTC (Mon) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (2 responses)

> said in public that only the copyright owner can sue to redress GPL noncompliance

This seems to be a question of *law*, not the FSF's opinion of what they think the law should be. But regardless of their opinions, the legal landscape has changed considerably since the GPLv2 was written -- most prominent change being legally-enforced DRM that renders quite a bit of the GPL's "intent" effectively worthless.

Is the contract restricted to the buyers, or to the "any 3rd party" of the GPL?

Posted Jan 12, 2026 15:36 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

> most prominent change being legally-enforced DRM that renders quite a bit of the GPL's "intent" effectively worthless.

Or does it render much DRM unlawful as applied to GPL-licenced code?

Cheers,
Wol

Is the contract restricted to the buyers, or to the "any 3rd party" of the GPL?

Posted Jan 12, 2026 18:39 UTC (Mon) by SLi (subscriber, #53131) [Link]

> > said in public that only the copyright owner can sue to redress GPL noncompliance
> This seems to be a question of *law*, not the FSF's opinion of what they think the law should be. But regardless of their opinions, the legal landscape has changed considerably since the GPLv2 was written -- most prominent change being legally-enforced DRM that renders quite a bit of the GPL's "intent" effectively worthless.

It's not, really. A contract *can* usually deliberately create a right for a third party beneficiary to sue. Thus, the question here is whether GPL does, which goes to the intent of the parties. Intent of the parties can be a question of the law if the text is clear enough, but California allows evidence even against what seems like a clear meaning of a text.

I think you need to look at the intent in a more limited sense. It's not about "what we want to ultimately accomplish". The intent as relevant here, is much more mechanical: Did the parties intend to agree to grant third party beneficiaries the right to sue for specific performance. The "what we want to accomplish" part is relevant to answering that question, but the court ultimately wants to answer how the parties at the time would have answered that very specific question.

Now, there is, or rather was, an argument to be made that, in this specific case, this is something that could not be agreed at all. Vizio tried it and lost.

The SFC carefully styled the claim as a state contract law claim, not a Copyright Law claim. Copyright is exclusively federal; states cannot really add to it or remove from it. Vizio removed the case to a Federal Court, arguing that the claims are fully preempted by the Copyright Act. Essentially, "what is demanded here is sufficiently copyright-like that the states are preempted from doing that".

And that was a good try. The federal judge looked at the case and said that this demand for producing source code is different enough from the normal exclusive rights of the copyright owner that it can properly be analyzed under contract law. Remanded to state court.

Had Vizio won that claim—and I think it plausibly could have—the case would have been over. It would have been moved to the federal court. Then the judge would ask SFC "are you the copyright owner?". "No" -> Ok, you have no standing to sue; only the copyright owner has standing to sue under the Copyright Act.


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