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cutting off their nose

Posted Oct 29, 2025 12:18 UTC (Wed) by Phantom_Hoover (subscriber, #167627)
In reply to: cutting off their nose by corbet
Parent article: Python Software Foundation withdraws security-related grant proposal

I mean you're right that the parent comment was a bad-faith strawman of the opposing position, but you're verging on the same thing yourself characterising DEI as just a common-sense procedure to judge people on their abilities rather than their looks. DEI as constituted in early 2020s discourse is a specific political programme riddled with completely legitimate controversies. The ideology is embedded into the name of the concept, in the use of the word "equity" over "equality", a choice which advocates made very clear was all about focusing on equality of outcome as a preferred ideal rather than equality of opportunity. If you're not going to believe some random commenter that this is a real point of contention, take it from a professor of political philosophy: https://josephheath.substack.com/p/why-philosophers-hate-...


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cutting off their nose

Posted Oct 29, 2025 17:59 UTC (Wed) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (1 responses)

> DEI as constituted in early 2020s discourse is a specific political programme riddled with completely legitimate controversies

I think you meant to say: "Decades-old DEI practices were rebranded by a specific political party in the early 2020s so it could be used as wedge issue"

cutting off their nose

Posted Oct 29, 2025 18:01 UTC (Wed) by jzb (editor, #7867) [Link]

As with several others - I modded this through, but let's really end the thread here. There's little chance that anybody is going to change their minds about this topic as a result of comments here. Let's try to stick to things that will be useful.

Obligatory: This is not strictly aimed at pizza, I am simply placing the comment here in hopes it will be seen.


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