Confused
Confused
Posted Oct 28, 2025 18:20 UTC (Tue) by NYKevin (subscriber, #129325)In reply to: Confused by Wol
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I have cited this survey before, and I will do so again. Over 80% of Italians had a negative view of the Romani (or Roma) people in 2019,[1] and several other countries were not far behind that mark. I was also able to find numerous older reports about many different kinds of anti-Romani discrimination practiced throughout Europe, with [2] being a representative example from 2011. To be fair, things appear to be somewhat better in Western Europe, and the situation may have improved (or worsened) since 2019. But we can't just ignore half the continent, and 2019 is still quite recent in the grand scope of things. It is politically expedient to dismiss systemic racism and discrimination as "uniquely American problem[s]," but I am not convinced that this is anything other than a means of avoiding your (Europe's) own issues.
(I'm well aware that England would like to think of the UK and/or British Isles as an island chain in the Atlantic ocean, and not in any way a part of Europe. But NI is a de facto part of Europe whether England likes it or not, at least given the current Brexit deal, and England has its own problems as you describe.)
I would also like to preemptively clarify that I am not in any way accusing *you personally* of trying to avoid the issue. After all, you do say "rightly or wrongly," which can hardly be read as endorsement, and the rest of your comment makes your position clear enough. The "you" in the above comment is "you, Europeans and Brits-who-don't-call-themselves-Europeans, collectively."
[1]: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/10/14/minority-gr...
[2]: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur01/005/2011/en/
