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Strings aren't always bad

Strings aren't always bad

Posted Oct 27, 2025 21:51 UTC (Mon) by ringerc (subscriber, #3071)
In reply to: Bravo by jhe
Parent article: Python Software Foundation withdraws security-related grant proposal

> I dislike that you threw the "completely unrelated political agenda" stone when none of the things that the NSF now prohibits are related to language programming.

Grants are routinely tied to requirements and objectives that are seemingly unrelated to the task the grant seeks to further. Often those seemingly side-requirements are a significant motivator for the grantor - the grant is there to encourage an organisation in a direction it might not otherwise go.

For example, grants may have terms that prohibit an organisation from working with nations and other organisations the grantor deems to be criminal, hostile or embargoed.

I don't think such terms are inherently bad, and they can IMO even be very positive. Though I happen to strongly disagree with the attitudes and beliefs this particular set of grant strings seeks to promote, and am relieved the PSF rejected the proposal.


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Strings aren't always bad

Posted Oct 28, 2025 21:23 UTC (Tue) by rgmoore (✭ supporter ✭, #75) [Link]

A big complaint here is that the terms PSF is objecting to were added after they submitted their proposal. They spent a lot of time and effort applying for the grant, only to discover it now had terms they found so objectionable that they decided to give up the grant rather than accept them. I could understand objecting to the bait and switch even if I supported the rules they were trying to enforce.


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