Boy who cried wolf in reverse? [LWN.net]

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:42 UTC (Fri) by mb (subscriber, #50428)
In reply to: Boy who cried wolf in reverse? by farnz
Parent article: Ubuntu 25.10 to drop support for GNOME on Xorg

The only implementation I exclude is Gnome, because that is not acceptable for me regardless of X11 or Wayland.
Anything else is fine.

KDE, labwc and Xfce-Wayland don't work for me.
Please tell me. Which one should I test next?
I heard Wayland was ready for use. So which one is it that works? Is it really only Gnome?

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Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:45 UTC (Fri) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (4 responses)

Why doesn't KDE work for you? KDE Plasma 6.0, 6.1 and 6.2 had some bugs that affected me (but broadly worked for me, as long as I didn't trip up the bugs), but Plasma 6.4 just works, and works better than it does running over X11 to X.org as server.

And you still haven't answered my question; which Rust compiler produces production ready code, apart from rustc which doesn't work for me? Or are you saying that Rust isn't ready for production use, too?

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:48 UTC (Fri) by mb (subscriber, #50428) [Link] (3 responses)

>Why doesn't KDE work for you?

I don't know *why* it doesn't work.
But I tried it a couple of days ago and it did not work at all.
Crashes, not working buttons, hanging unresponsive UI, etc. It was completely unusable.

>And you still haven't answered my question

I have.

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:49 UTC (Fri) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link] (1 responses)

I missed it - which Rust compiler did you say was production ready for arbitrary Rust code, apart from rustc, which I'm excluding for reasons that I won't discuss with you?

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:50 UTC (Fri) by mb (subscriber, #50428) [Link]

Okay. Let me press the mute button then.

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 14:39 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

Plasma/KDE/Wayland has a bunch of known annoyances. I haven't updated my system for a bit, but windows all centre on the screen at boot, it doeesn't remember properly what was/wasn't running, probably a few more. All papercuts that are anooying but not serious.

For me, everything seems to work "good enough", but I can understand people not being willing to put up with it. I like KDE, so I do.

Cheers,
Wol