Boy who cried wolf in reverse? [LWN.net]

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 11, 2025 9:31 UTC (Wed) by aragilar (subscriber, #122569)
In reply to: Boy who cried wolf in reverse? by taladar
Parent article: Ubuntu 25.10 to drop support for GNOME on Xorg

That's also ignoring apps (and some toolkits such as Tk) which are still X-only, and absence a change of heart from specific wayland devs around certain protocols, will never be ported to Wayland.

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Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 11, 2025 14:18 UTC (Wed) by parametricpoly (subscriber, #143903) [Link] (1 responses)

Eh, the undroidwish distribution seems to support Wayland: https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/tktview/3f58c0871c0be6b457cb

Maybe they should start to react a little? The ticket has been open for 7 years and nothing has happened in the main project. It shows that development is pretty much at a standstill.

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 11, 2025 15:26 UTC (Wed) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

I think undroidwish is a bit of a hack, but I also think the Tk developers over-estimate the difficulty of supporting Wayland. (Not that I'm volunteering to look into it...)

Tk natively supports X11, MS Windows and Mac OS, which are three platforms as different from one another as they can be. How hard would it really be to add Wayland support?

Two things hold me back from even looking at Wayland: XFCE4 and Tcl/Tk. Can't live without those things and don't want to run them in an emulated X session under Wayland.

PS: The same person behind undroidwish also made a curses toolkit for Tcl called "ck" which was quite amazing! No idea if it compiles against a modern Tcl.

Boy who cried wolf in reverse?

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:50 UTC (Fri) by mgedmin (guest, #34497) [Link]

That's what Xwayland is for. I don't remember hearing about any plans of deprecating it.