Still have unfixed bugs in focus follows mouse [LWN.net]

Still have unfixed bugs in focus follows mouse

Posted Jun 10, 2025 23:37 UTC (Tue) by jgg (subscriber, #55211)
Parent article: Ubuntu 25.10 to drop support for GNOME on Xorg

Sadly Ubuntu's desktop in wayland mode still doesn't have sanely working focus follows mouse support, it acts differently than X11 mode and has many annoying bugs..

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2817

For example. So this will be an annoying thing for people expecting that behavior.

Otherwise Wayland has been running fine for me this last year, which is the first time the Ubuntu LTS had something that is usable/non-crashy on my system..

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Still have unfixed bugs...

Posted Jun 12, 2025 14:27 UTC (Thu) by somlo (subscriber, #92421) [Link]

I've been using wayland (with Fedora) for a few years now -- just tired of swimming against the current, I guess...

I like focus-follows-mouse, and I'm still low-key annoyed by the inability to disable raise-on-click (I don't want the whole freakin' window in my face each time I touch it), while still maintaining the ability to raise a window explicitly (by clicking on its *title*).

There's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1349225, which links to an obsolete gnome bug (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=767967), with the typical "you're holding it wrong" attitude permeating the comments... :(

Still have unfixed bugs in focus follows mouse

Posted Jun 13, 2025 13:15 UTC (Fri) by mgedmin (guest, #34497) [Link]

The bug you're linking to affects X11? Are you complaining that Wayland mode doesn't have bugs you're used to having?

(I've been using sloppy focus myself for many years. I didn't notice switching to Wayland affecting anything about it. I was mildly annoyed when the extra focus delay was added to make it possible to use the global application menu, a few releases before the global application menu itself got deprecated and removed. I got used to it.)

Still have unfixed bugs in focus follows mouse

Posted Jun 13, 2025 20:12 UTC (Fri) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link]

This may be a problem with Ubuntu's session on Wayland*, but it is not a Wayland problem. The compositor decides how to give focus to windows. From Wayland's perspective, this is totally outside the scope. That's why Wayland developer may see that their specification is (mostly) complete, and free of problems your encountering. The behaviour you are complaining about is not in Wayland's scope.

* Aren't they using GNOME? I'm a f-f-m user, and I've been using GNOME with wayland since 2012 or so. Without any big focus problems. But again, any problems are Mutter problems, not Wayland's per se.